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Holy (bleep) Microsoft promises secure logins for Windows PowerShell (OpenSSH comes to Windows!)
The Register ^ | June 2, 2015 | Shaun Nichols

Posted on 06/02/2015 6:59:47 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: dayglored
Oh right, you asked for advice on the Windows 10 free update.

This from dayglored, I am just piggy-backing.I was just notified that the roll out will be 29 July. All I can add is, Do it! I've got three machines, one a laptop, and I can tell you that I have never had a better experience with any OS.The menu's are intuitive, the windows open and close with such a lovely transition, I would say something like a Mac but that would not be right, it is so much more pleasing. And it has multi-window made easy, if you have never used it you won't believe how it cleans up and organizes your desktop. Every update just got better as they listened to the users instead of that ass Ballmer. So many good points it is hard to list. Just do it.

Now I have to tell you, don't install and start work. Get an adult beverage of your choice, with a friend or not, and read or watch the How to get started vid, then play around for a while. And the help is to die for, just ask the question. That's right, it listens. I am so impressed by this. 'Course, this venue has a few Luddites that pop up on every MS thread to advertise their ignorance... Disregard their negatavism and press on, you will be glad you did.

21 posted on 06/02/2015 8:48:33 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: dayglored
Eclectech might have to rewrite their classic sysadmin day song.

http://www.eclectech.co.uk/sysadminday.php

22 posted on 06/02/2015 8:54:41 PM PDT by TChad
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“Any advice? “

Run away. Run away fast. And never look back. Windows 10 is basically just Windows 8 with a coat of paint and a bunch of new stuff for mobile. Windows 7 is the best OS Microsoft has ever made for the PC/laptop, and it’s looking highly doubtful they’ll ever make one better.

Uninstall optional update KB3035583 to make the nag go away.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583


23 posted on 06/02/2015 8:59:17 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: JoeProBono

Uninstall optional update KB3035583 to make the nag go away.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583


24 posted on 06/02/2015 9:01:08 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
> Windows 7 is the best OS Microsoft has ever made for the PC/laptop, and it’s looking highly doubtful they’ll ever make one better.

I agree on the first part, and the second is certainly possible, given it will take at least another full release to get the remnants of Metro out of the UI.

> Uninstall optional update KB3035583 to make the nag go away.

Thanks!

25 posted on 06/02/2015 9:09:23 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: catnipman

Yes I know. Just try to uninstall it and see what happens — nothing. Microsoft ain’t stupid when it comes to protecting their “territory” in your computer.


26 posted on 06/02/2015 9:10:32 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Search ""Microsoft patch KB3035583 removal"" for that popup. For some reason
I don't have it on my Win-7-Pro system. I even searched to see if it was available
in the optional updates and it's not there for me. No loss but I was curious about
that pop-up you and others described so I found it out.

See link here also for information about it. Two stories down from the top.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/

27 posted on 06/02/2015 9:35:36 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: JoeProBono

“Just try to uninstall it and see what happens — nothing. Microsoft ain’t stupid when it comes to protecting their “territory” in your computer.”

I just uninstalled it and the nag went away after rebooting. The trick is to not allow it to be re-installed. You might also want to uninstall kb3021917 and kb2952664.

https://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=windows+10+nag+uninstall+kb3035583&ncl=dPoy1ZJGoSo5QTMe0lgmfVB0l48TM&cf=all&scoring=d


28 posted on 06/02/2015 9:42:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dayglored

Umm... PSRemoting has been around since Windows 2008. I can do “Enter-PSSession” and be remotely consoled to a server. This sounds like they’re moving that functionality to a common port (22). Am I missing anything?


29 posted on 06/03/2015 4:09:30 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kirkwood

Right-click on the folders, go to Properties. Click on the Security tab. Click the Advanced button. Take ownership of the folder structure and push it down the tree. Set the ACL to permit full control to your user. Delete away. Be warned, however, it’ll likely show up again during the next patch cycle.


30 posted on 06/03/2015 4:11:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Umm... PSRemoting has been around since Windows 2008. I can do “Enter-PSSession” and be remotely consoled to a server. This sounds like they’re moving that functionality to a common port (22). Am I missing anything?

Enter-PSSession only works for connecting to another Windows computer that has PS Remoting enabled, and runs on HTTP/HTTPS protocol. This is SSH protocol, for connecting to non-windows (Unix/Linux) systems.

31 posted on 06/03/2015 4:14:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Right, so they’re just moving the capability to a common port. Functionally, it’s no different than SSH.


32 posted on 06/03/2015 4:17:12 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Right, so they’re just moving the capability to a common port. Functionally, it’s no different than SSH.

Technically it is SSH. You won't use Powershell cmdlets in the session, you will use shell commands native to the remote system you've connected to.

33 posted on 06/03/2015 4:19:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dayglored
Ballmer's retarded view of Windows stunted its growth for a decade and a half, more!
Yes, that is very true - and not just Windows! I am glad he is gone.
34 posted on 06/03/2015 6:13:39 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: tacticalogic; rarestia
>> Right, so they’re just moving the capability to a common port. Functionally, it’s no different than SSH.

> Technically it is SSH. You won't use Powershell cmdlets in the session, you will use shell commands native to the remote system you've connected to.

In terms of how remote shell access gets used for interoperability with other non-Windows systems, the existing Windows-proprietary remote connections were not useful. They were for Windows-to-Windows sessions. The rest of the world has used SSH for a long, long time.

For Windows, the only major operating system that stubbornly refused to admit anything other than itself existed in production environments for decades, to finally recognize that it needs to learn to play well with others, is a non-trivial advance in interoperability for everybody.

Ballmer's myopic view that everything but Windows is either a toy (Apple) or a cancer (Linux) made Windows a laughingstock among serious mixed-environment system admins and developers for the last couple of decades. We dealt with it only because we HAD to for certain business applications. We put up with third-party bolt-ons because it was the only way to get real work done.

SSH is the network login communications standard everywhere except Windows. Finally, Windows will start being less of a pain in the ass to everyone who isn't an insulated Windows-only shop.

35 posted on 06/03/2015 6:28:21 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored
SSH is the network login communications standard everywhere except Windows. Finally, Windows will start being less of a pain in the ass to everyone who isn't an insulated Windows-only shop.

Not sure there is such a thing. Even pure Windows shops will have things like switches and routers that use custom *nix core operating systems that employ SSH for management and configuration.

36 posted on 06/03/2015 6:44:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: catnipman

>The trick is to not allow it to be re-installed.

Right. I’d wager that Windows update will reinstall that nag repeatedly. That’s the nature of the beast.


37 posted on 06/03/2015 7:11:47 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: rarestia

Yeah I know how to do that, but I really don’t want to mess with folder permissions since that tends to generate more problems later. I just wish microsoft would stop pushing multiple copies of the same software onto my computer. It acts more like a virus than a service.


38 posted on 06/03/2015 8:03:45 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: tacticalogic

Good point!


39 posted on 06/03/2015 8:06:53 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: JoeProBono

“I’d wager that Windows update will reinstall that nag repeatedly. That’s the nature of the beast.”

Not if you go into the Windows Update Control Panel Applet, find the update, right click on it, and then click “Hide Update”. It won’t reinstall after that.


40 posted on 06/03/2015 8:53:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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