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October 25 anniversary of 3 major battles: Agincourt, charge of the Light Brigade and Leyte Gulf
VA Viper ^ | 10/25/2015 | HarpyGoddess

Posted on 10/25/2015 6:51:24 PM PDT by harpygoddess

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21 posted on 10/25/2015 8:54:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: freefdny

Kenneth Branagh’s rendition of the St Crispian speech always gives me goosebumps.

https://youtu.be/A-yZNMWFqvM


22 posted on 10/25/2015 9:16:14 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: harpygoddess

Today is also the anniversary of the invasion of Grenada in 1983, the turning point of the Cold War. Grenada was the first Communist country to be liberated during the war as a result of military action.

The Soviet Union appeared to have reached the apogee of its power earlier in the year when a pro-Soviet government took power in Suriname. However, the liberation of Grenada was followed by the installation of Pershing II missiles in Europe, and the the balance of power began to shift in favor of the West.


23 posted on 10/25/2015 9:58:51 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Snickering Hound
Japanese carrier Zuikaku sinking at Leyte Gulf.

"Zuikaku" means Soaring Crane.

24 posted on 10/25/2015 10:01:52 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Afterguard
WhiskeyX posted some great videos yesterday about Taffy3, including https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCWZzqHc8ow.

Also, if you ever get to the National Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg, Texas (the home of Admiral Nimitz), there is a great animated display of part of the battle called "Crossing the T".

25 posted on 10/26/2015 4:37:51 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: rlmorel

Gerald Ford (noted by the MSM as a clumsy oaf) was thrown onto a slippery slope and appeared to be on the way overboard in that gale. He saved himself by an athletic feat which presaged his later renown an All-American college lineman.


26 posted on 10/26/2015 5:06:41 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: rlmorel

After Leyte Halsey should have been removed. His job was to protect the Leyte landings and he abandoned his post in search of personal glory
Between that and sailing into two typhoons he got a lot of people killed for no good reason

As to Balaclava having stood there where the charge finished up Cardigan was an idiot


27 posted on 10/26/2015 5:09:01 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: rlmorel

Battle 360 Episode 9 -”Battle of Leyte Gulf”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUxb1Kj_rrI


28 posted on 10/26/2015 5:40:39 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Michael.SF.

“As we consider the above we must also acknowledge that Gallipoli was a planned attack that went awry and Churchill, whose career was in tatters in the aftermath, slinked away in humiliation. He salvaged his career, which he believed to be over, by his actions at the front lines of WWI.”

According to William Manchester, Churchill proposed attacking Gallipoli early in the war, before it was garrisoned. He was overruled.

Much later, after Gallipoli was garrisoned, Churchill’s political enemies resurrected the plan, this time overrode Churchill’s objections, then blamed the predictable disaster on him.

He didn’t “slink.” He and the human race were betrayed by British politicians. I seem to remember that Neville Chamberlain’s father was involved, but my memory isn’t very good.

People like that cause a great deal of the world’s misery.


29 posted on 10/26/2015 9:02:28 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: rlmorel

“the parallel between “The Charge of The Light Brigade” and the Battle of Leyte Gulf”

There are also parallels with Balaclava and Little Big Horn. Both units charged heavy enemy strength at the ends of valleys—well, a coulee is not strictly speaking a valley, but they are topographically similar—the problem was caused by extreme crap-headedness on the part of commander(s), and by a wild coincidence both Cardigan’s cavalry and Custer’s used the same music—”Gary Owen.”


30 posted on 10/26/2015 9:46:31 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Very interesting...didn’t know that!


31 posted on 10/26/2015 10:07:06 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: rlmorel
Great book on the subject:

I also compare Taffy 3's situation to that of Chamberlain at Gettysburg when he realized he was running out of ammunition. Can't retreat. Can't stay here and be shot to pieces. Only thing to do is charge.

32 posted on 10/26/2015 3:38:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: harpygoddess
Dang!

Is it St. Crispin's Day already!

You plan all year and then it slips right by.

33 posted on 10/26/2015 3:40:39 PM PDT by x
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To: dsc
He didn’t “slink.”

Maybe a poor word choice.

I should have said: "he was demoted, then resigned his position, and volunteered to fight for the infantry in hopes of resurrecting his career, which he believed to have ended."

Mind you, I have a high level of respect, over all, for Churchill, but Gallipoli was not a success for him.

34 posted on 10/26/2015 4:47:32 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: colorado tanker

Great book!


35 posted on 10/26/2015 5:50:14 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: harpygoddess

We remember.


36 posted on 10/26/2015 6:43:53 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Michael.SF.

“Mind you, I have a high level of respect, over all, for Churchill, but Gallipoli was not a success for him.”

Perhaps I did not express myself with adequate clarity.

He *opposed* the attack on Gallipoli, very strenuously.


37 posted on 10/27/2015 3:04:55 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
He *opposed* the attack on Gallipoli, very strenuously.

Yet he was the fall guy. So his opposition did not help in the political intrigue of the aftermath following the disaster.

38 posted on 10/27/2015 3:25:10 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Yet he was the fall guy. So his opposition did not help in the political intrigue of the aftermath following the disaster.”

What could and should he have done?


39 posted on 10/27/2015 5:16:51 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
I am sure that is a question he asked himself many times. His answer was to buck up, get back in the fight and prove himself (again) on the battlefield.

All men make errors, wise men and great leaders overcome them. Churchill did just that.

40 posted on 10/27/2015 5:35:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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