Posted on 01/09/2016 7:35:03 AM PST by soakncider
Shove it with that “Southron” crap. Wars generally boil down to trying to keep or trying to accrue money and wealth (and food, water, territory, and natural resources all fall into that category).
You are, of course, right: Lincoln’s EO on slavery (the so-called “Emancipation Proclamation”) actually freed no one. Slavery did not end until the passage of the 13th Amendment.
Too funny! And so close to reality.
Yea, no thanks
I am a Southerner by heritage, and the last label I would attach to the Confederacy would be “Marxist.”
Thanks for the book recommendation. My grandsons are being raised free of any guilt; white, southern, or any other. It is this false guilt that pol’s use to manipulate the uninformed.
Big Cotton was money, was it not?
Exactamundo.
I assume you are not including me in that “Pajamaboy” label.
Big Cotton was money, was it not?
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Yes, I should have been more clear.
Nice retort. Well done.
No. Your posts clearly show that you're not a Safe-Spacer. :)
I included you because the Pajamaboygirl had posted to you.
Almost always it's money, but only because money is a store of material value, and value is a proxy for attachment to the world. Or ... The World as Jesus called it.
The attachment to material things is at it's base clinging to power, and power is mistaken as the equivalent of life. So the deluded Jihadi's believe they will be one with the power of Allah if they follow correctly. They have of course been manipulated by people with attachment to worldly power.
All of it is delusion and in the case of Islam practiced as written, in fact, Godless.
Mankind is always open to delusion if he is Godless, because he replaces reality with his own fantasies - that is, he mistakes the cognitive ramblings that bubble up from his brain as the capital T Truth - rather than the output of a little computer we have for helping us get food and build shelter. Even for those who achieve their money or power, it is living nightmare, impermanent (Ozymandias). But always, it is hard to exactly characterize the reasons, because the reasons are themselves deluded, chaos.
The important point is that - yes it's usually money, often as a proxy for value/power, always as a proxy for worldly life masquerading as eternal life ... but ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS it is pure sincere delusion. And that's why the leadership on the left is scary. They believe their own fantasies, and this is very very very difficult to cure. This believing-my-own-fantasy, It is the root of all suffering on the planet since the beginning of time.
Wait, actually delusion has it's own root -> the dualism that gives rise to the manifest (knowledge of good and evil), which creates the separating of the one into many ... and then various psychotic attachments. It's sounds Buddhist, but it's not. The initial, original sin, out of which all suffering grew - you might call it the spigot of suffering - is the eating of the apple - the so called 'knowledge of good and evil' - stated another way, the initial fantasy, the initial delusion. In God's world, there are no two.
I love the Bible - right about everything, misinterpreted SO often ... most often when man tries to create a governing body around it's study, or reads it for what he wants to hear. The simplicity and non-drama is what hides all the truth.
But while war may be responsible for the killing of the most people, it is not the cause of the most suffering. In fact, if you kill a person, you have ended his ability to suffer ... so ... what's tragic is the length of time and extent of suffering that people endure ... alive ... caused by this delusion. Whether you are in a Nazi concentration camp. or just a child in an emotionally sick family that has its own set of manifestations ... at different times the extent is different ... the cause is the same (delusion) and the affect is the same.
Always it's like the same cookie dough spread everywhere on the planet ... you can cut out whatever shape you want in the cookie dough ... a tree with sprinkles, a star, a Santa, a war, an oppression - the shape doesn't matter ... it tastes like cookie dough.
The Bible nailed it exactly, but perhaps it should have been interpreted (I am NO scholar) ... the Apple of the Delusion of Good and Evil.
Woooo well wondered on that post, time to get on with Saturday. Ordered the e-book! Thanks for posting!
Yup, just as I thought. Nasty and boring.
Excellent post, as always, tinyowl. Good read for a Saturday morning!
Well, that just started at post #54.
It was scintillating until the Missouri Pajamaboygirl showed up...
She’s on a tear this morning.
In regards to compromise, I believe that by 1860 the distrust between the North and South was so high that no compromise was believable.
For example as a compromise Democrats agree to build a wall on the border in exchange for amnesty. Now many Conservatives might think that it eould be worth amnesty to get a wall, but none of them would agree to the deal because they kno we the Democrats won’t keep theit side of the
Would keep their side of the bargain.
Always remember that Kentucky, Missouri, West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware remained with the North as slave states, and most did NOT release their slaves till eight months after the Civil War ended.
In truth, several of these states were seized before they could join the South but they were still in the Union.
One might easily say that after the slaves were free in the South, slavery in the UNION ceased only after the thirteenth Amendment was passed.
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