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Sarah Palin Suggests Arrested Son Track Suffers From PTSD
abc news ^ | 1-20-2016 | SHUSHANNAH WALSHE, PAOLA CHAVEZ, AND BEN GITTLESON

Posted on 01/20/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Citizen Zed

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To: goodwithagun

I’m a Marine Corps “combat” vet—Beirut in 83. I place combat in paren’s because, well, let’s just say it wasn’t Stalingrad.

I must say, I’m getting a bit tired of the PTSD thing. I do not believe I’ve seen EVEN ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! single case of any vet getting in trouble anywhere at any time under any circumstances who was not suffering PTSD. Everything from overdue library books to murder is being blamed on PTSD.


21 posted on 01/20/2016 1:36:33 PM PST by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

I sure thought of PTSD when I heard of his incident

I didn’t sadly. I wish I did. I actually didn’t think much at all except he is an adult and Sarah had nothing to do with it. But the PTSD thing is real and hopefully now will get the appropriate help from the VA.


22 posted on 01/20/2016 1:36:43 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ifinnegan
Our present day society is anchor less and rudderless.

Maybe because we go to war with our hands tied and told that victory is not the goal.

The men in WWII went to war to kill the enemy at all costs and to win

Today soldiers need to worry if they shoot under the wrong circumstance they will be tried and convicted of murder....yeah, I wonder why they come back so effed up....

23 posted on 01/20/2016 1:37:05 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: donna
It is sad, they come back and people act as if there is/was no war.

I can see where that is difficult to square when you saw buddies blown up around you or you have lost a limb or limbs and/or are paralyzed.

24 posted on 01/20/2016 1:37:13 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: txrefugee

Where did Track serve?

I think it was Iraq but could have been Afghanistan but it was definitely one of those. I know not helpful at all.


25 posted on 01/20/2016 1:38:25 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: hinckley buzzard

What are the PTSD symptoms. I’m being serious here, because all I see is drunken brawling, wife-beating stuff. I’ve known a billion drunks who act the same way and whose only combat experience is opening imported beers which lack the twist top. My father was a prime example—his behavior sounds EXACTLY like Track’s.


26 posted on 01/20/2016 1:39:40 PM PST by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas
Thank you for your service. I respect both you and Track Palin for what you've done. If he really is suffering from it, I hope he gets the help he needs. The skeptic in me questions the timing, the previous incidences, the family's well known drama, etc.
27 posted on 01/20/2016 1:40:04 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
PTSD is a common result of combat service. A rate of 15-20% is realistic. It has been prevalent among veterans of all wars. WWII vets who had it were smart enough not to go to mental hospitals in the '40s, which were hellholes, and which had no decent treatment to offer, preferring to drown themselves in alcohol.

Yep. They drank a lot. I remember my Dad and his friends (all vets, including relatives) drank a great deal. They had their bowling leagues (again, mostly vets) and found a degree of fellowship with them. People gloss over this.

The only consistent take away (when I was a child) was they wanted to get on with their lives and be back with their families.
28 posted on 01/20/2016 1:40:24 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: ifinnegan

My dad was a WWII vet and active in veterans organizations all his life, and he felt that the environment vets faced after WWII was a major factor in enabling them to rejoin civilian life with less PTSD (as it is now called). This changed dramatically after Viet Nam, and has gone downhill ever since. So I think you are exactly right in that the ills of modern society have added to the burden veterans must carry, and we all bear some responsibilty for that.

It is one issue that good people of all political persuasions ought to be able to agree on. We can fight like hell over whether to send troops in harms way, but anyone who serves should be treated with utmost respect and appreciation.


29 posted on 01/20/2016 1:40:32 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: donna

I have a friend who was an Army Ranger. He and one other buddy survived a direct hit to the vehicle they were in where everyone else died. He will not talk about the event. He has a quiet inner strength, and I still pray for him.


30 posted on 01/20/2016 1:41:02 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: goodwithagun

Thank you... The skeptic in me notices that 100%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% of vets in any trouble of any kind claim PTSD. Not 1% or 10% or 15%, but 100%. It’s getting absolutely ridiculous.


31 posted on 01/20/2016 1:43:35 PM PST by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: erkelly
I was stationed with alot of vets returning from Vietnam. I was shocked how mentally messed up alot of them were.
32 posted on 01/20/2016 1:44:07 PM PST by McGruff
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To: bigbob
My dad was a WWII vet and active in veterans organizations all his life, and he felt that the environment vets faced after WWII was a major factor in enabling them to rejoin civilian life with less PTSD (as it is now called). This changed dramatically after Viet Nam, and has gone downhill ever since. So I think you are exactly right in that the ills of modern society have added to the burden veterans must carry, and we all bear some responsibilty for that.

Agreed.
33 posted on 01/20/2016 1:44:08 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Just read an interesting bio about Audie Murphy online. He was the most decorated soldier during WW 11. Killed over 240 of the enemy. His bio said he suffered from PTSD (although it wasn’t named back then) his whole life thereafter, and was addicted to sleeping pills...couldn’t sleep without them.


34 posted on 01/20/2016 1:45:51 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas
Thank you... The skeptic in me notices that 100%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% of vets in any trouble of any kind claim PTSD. Not 1% or 10% or 15%, but 100%. It’s getting absolutely ridiculous.

Maybe you should spend some time reviewing this:

Veterans Inc. and here National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
35 posted on 01/20/2016 1:48:33 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: txrefugee

He was with the Stryker brigade that liberated Mosul during the 2007 Surge.


36 posted on 01/20/2016 1:50:08 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: miss marmelstein

No lets not dump on the vet. But the vet needs to take responsibility for his own actions. And mom needs to stop making excuses for her adult children.


37 posted on 01/20/2016 1:51:00 PM PST by mouse1
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To: Citizen Zed

If he hit a woman, he is a dirtbag and no one should be making excuses.


38 posted on 01/20/2016 1:51:23 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: PA Engineer

Will those sites tell me why no vet on earth can get a DUI that is not traced back to PTSD?

My favorite PTSD story involves a coworker’s husband. Three days after arriving in Iraq, his Humvee went over a mine. No deaths, no injuries either inside or outside the vehicle. He sits at home now on a PTSD claim on 100% disability. I believe that means he gets 100% pay, but not really sure.

His wife says the explosion “messed up his head.”

Well, my head is messed up by paying this guy to sit at home for the rest of his life.


39 posted on 01/20/2016 1:54:32 PM PST by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: mouse1

Sounds kind of dump-y to me!


40 posted on 01/20/2016 1:54:59 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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