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Vanity: Help Me Understand Why You Don't Believe That We Are Owned by the "Establishment?"
Me ^ | 02/27/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/27/2016 12:18:49 PM PST by Yaelle

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I don't pretend to know who exactly are the greedy people trying to rule the country and world. But clearly they are running the show. Most people who go represent us in DC come out filthy rich. Most cave on the big items that would either keep us free or control and enslave us further.

Playing the game of poking a chad for the most conservative seeming person on the ballot must make us feel so clean and holy. But it hurts the dream of our founders who wanted us to actually live under our Constitution to the point of even dying for it should we need to.

I choose freedom. Trump isn't perfect and he doesn't fit inside the conservative box. The box, at this point, is just a distraction. Trump can free us from some of this enslavement. Even the wall alone is a step back toward our Constitution. We need a strong, fearless leader. He is risking a very cushy retirement and indeed his very life to do this for us (probably more for his grandchildren, but, yes, for US too). No other independently resourced American has stepped forward to try and save us. He's our only chance.

It's not about "who is more conservative." It's about not falling for that trick to lull us into continued serfdom.

Explain to me how I am wrong, please, because I can't see it. Why stick to a holy box of principles over freedom, over the Constitution?

1 posted on 02/27/2016 12:18:49 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Unfortunately Trump is selling his soul to the establishment. He is NOT who he is telling us he is; he is a big gov’t liberal and we’re on our way to exactly what we’ve been in the last 7+ years.


2 posted on 02/27/2016 12:22:25 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Yaelle

Well said. This is what I have been thinking as well.


3 posted on 02/27/2016 12:22:52 PM PST by Edgar3 (Libnorance is a mental disease, and it's getting Progressively worse!)
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To: Yaelle

I like what Trump is going to do with immigration, national security, the economy and trade. With out those things getting done, nothing else matters. Trump is the only candidate with the right platform to fix those issues and is not owned by big money donors.


4 posted on 02/27/2016 12:23:28 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - He's creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and spooky)
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Trump isn't going to end crony capitalism. He just wants to be the biggest crony.

His positions on things like Eminent Domain and his recent statements about clamping down on speech he doesn't like ought to scare the daylights out of anyone who believes in individual liberty.

Remember, this is the guy who threatened to sue an opponent for daring to play Trump's own statements in a commercial.

5 posted on 02/27/2016 12:25:19 PM PST by Johnny B. (Trump is, at heart, a facist.)
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6 posted on 02/27/2016 12:26:06 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: spacejunkie2001

You offer what evidence to this effect other than your conjecture?


7 posted on 02/27/2016 12:26:09 PM PST by nevergore
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You are full of crap. You are making judgments that have no basis so it is a lie. Enjoy your miserable life.

Trump for President.

8 posted on 02/27/2016 12:26:44 PM PST by Logical me
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You say Trump is selling his soul to the establishment. How so? If anything, his life trajectory looks more like he is moving away from the establishment, especially since he is no longer working for his company (it’s his kids’ now) and trying to work to make things better for EVERYBODY here. I don’t see a movement toward evil for his own gratification. Let’s say he’s probably had enough personal gratification. He’s not out for more money or sex for himself any more.


9 posted on 02/27/2016 12:27:00 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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“He is NOT who he is telling us he is; he is a big gov’t liberal and we’re on our way to exactly what we’ve been in the last 7+ years.”

I guess it’s time for us to vote Third Party then...because if Trump doesn’t win outright, the GOPe gets to select our candidate at the convention and, FOR SURE, it will be someone like Romney or Jeb (as neither Rubio, nor Cruz will be able to amass enough delegates for a majority, at this point).

I don’t want to be responsible for that, which is why I’m voting for Trump.


10 posted on 02/27/2016 12:27:38 PM PST by BobL (This is no longer a Policy Wonk election, it is a MOVEMENT. Vote for the hat!)
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Go play in your sand box.


11 posted on 02/27/2016 12:27:46 PM PST by Logical me
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Unfortunately Trump is selling Cruz has already sold his soul to the establishment. He is NOT who he is telling us he is
12 posted on 02/27/2016 12:28:53 PM PST by digger48
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If you only respond here with negative things about Trump as a person, or his past actions, you’re not really responding to my post: I am asking if you think we have a free country, following the constitution, where we have the leisure to vote for the guy with the most conservative personal creds?


13 posted on 02/27/2016 12:28:54 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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Trump isn't perfect and he doesn't fit fits inside the conservative liberal box.
14 posted on 02/27/2016 12:29:04 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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15 posted on 02/27/2016 12:29:11 PM PST by Enlightened1
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16 posted on 02/27/2016 12:30:29 PM PST by Enlightened1
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“Unfortunately Trump is selling his soul to the establishment.”

Oh boy, better tell Senator McConnel. He’s telling this years running senators to run negative adds about Trump, if Trump is the nominee.


17 posted on 02/27/2016 12:31:06 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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The latest Trump bashing goes like this: the evidence clearly shows, Trump has consistently supported establishment candidates, has given thousands of dollars to entrenched politicians, and has surrounded himself with long-time Republican establishment operatives....

IMHO, this says it all....we wonder no more why pols are afraid to take him on.

All that time he was donating, Trump was not running for anything and used politicians to get business done. The calculating pols knew this, so Trump was on the politicians/ hit list as a sucker who/d write a check, no questions asked.

These same pols are running scared now....

I would not be surprised if the candidates confided in Donald about their love life, spilled damaging opposition research WRT their opponents and damning stuff about well-known pols---in order to get bigger donations.

They/re wishing wish now they hadn't said the things they did....b/c Donald knows plenty.

18 posted on 02/27/2016 12:31:27 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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19 posted on 02/27/2016 12:31:55 PM PST by Enlightened1
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The establishment is big government and that’s exactly what DT is. He likes taking property from private citizens if it fits his fancy, he likes gov’t mandates forcing us into a healthcare system not of our choice, he likes TARP, he’s supported by Christie (big fat gov’t guy), he likes funding abortion factories.

Need me to report any other stuff? We, as conservatives, are being BLINDED by this guy.


20 posted on 02/27/2016 12:32:11 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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