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Historic 1886 Winchester rifle draws world record-breaking $1.2 million at auction
The Washington Times ^ | May 14, 2016 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 05/14/2016 2:17:33 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: MileHi

Well he had the gun restored by James Flynn a notable expert.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=124719&start=180

And he got in contact with Captain Askins Grandson Bill (Son of Col. Charles Askins (a interesting gun writer in the 50’s and 60’s)) and has been of assistance helping him get full value for some of the family’s guns they wish to part with.


41 posted on 05/14/2016 3:51:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 21twelve

Coulda been a Purdy or a Greener. Either one’s worth a lot o’ money.


42 posted on 05/14/2016 3:54:49 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: 21twelve

The model 31 is also a Browning design tho it was altered for side ejection.


43 posted on 05/14/2016 3:56:42 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: crusher2013

The ballistic information based off three grain types for the .44 WCF muzzle velocity is 1,245 ft/s (200 gr), 1,190 ft/s (217 gr), and 750 ft/s (225 gr). The popularity for the .44 WCF began to die off in the early 1940s due to better produced cartridges that were entering the market that were starting to make it less effective than newer rounds.

Hand loading brass is available for the .44 WCF for pistol and rifle loads. The ballistic performance for a .44 WCF on a 24 inch rifle barrel for a 200 grain bullet muzzle velocity is 1,800 ft/s. It can take down any sized medium game at a distance of 125 yards before noticeable wound penetration and trajectory drop-off occurs. The Winchester Model 73 is known as “The Gun That Won The West.”

- See more at: http://gundata.org/cartridge/100/.44-40-winchester/#sthash.4hnbgzVI.dpuf


44 posted on 05/14/2016 4:00:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Chainmail
The '86 is a great rifle - I have had several of them and they are rugged, smooth and accurate. They also kick like a moose in most of their issued calibers (like .38-56 .40-82, .45-70, .45-90, .50-110 Express, etc.)

Yep, very handsome rifles. I had one of repro Model 71s for a while. It upheld the tradition of brutal recoil, I can attest. I miss the big .348, but my shoulder doesn't.

45 posted on 05/14/2016 4:01:32 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: crusher2013
I would love to get one of those.

What is the range of the 44-40?

It the AR of its day.

Yes, the 1873 Winchester is the AR of its day. I haven't fired beyond 150 yards with mine, but even with open iron sights it is very accurate, and fast too with the lever action. Mine has a 30 inch barrel and holds 15 rounds. I have fired both smokeless and black powder rounds out of it and the bottle necked 44-40 case keeps any blowback from going into the action when shooting black power so it is easy to clean.

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46 posted on 05/14/2016 4:06:31 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: jazusamo
Wish I still had it.

The universal gun owner's lament.

47 posted on 05/14/2016 4:08:26 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Inyo-Mono

Beautiful.

Good for you!


48 posted on 05/14/2016 4:09:01 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: crusher2013

This. It was high capacity assault rifle, back in 1886, and it utilized a military round. Ten shots of 45-70 pretty near as fast as you could aim and pull the trigger.

Obviously evil and suited for no legitimate sporting use.

I wonder if they had gun grabbing politicians back then who used that line of argument, or if they just rode a rail out of town if they said anything like it?


49 posted on 05/14/2016 4:16:14 PM PDT by M1911A1 (It would have been Hillary vs. Jeb! with no Trump in the race.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
a interesting gun writer in the 50’s and 60’s

Yeah he was. I think I read him in G&A back when (mid '70s).

50 posted on 05/14/2016 4:16:25 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Fightin Whitey
The universal gun owner's lament.

True that. I've said it more than once. :)

51 posted on 05/14/2016 4:21:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo
“Winchester Model 1886 Sporting Rifle (serial number 1)

The #1 in the Serial number is what makes this rifle special.

52 posted on 05/14/2016 4:21:55 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time it is serious.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Whoever Flynn is did nice work on that, do you think the resto harms it?


53 posted on 05/14/2016 4:33:33 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Chainmail

I say imported from back East.


54 posted on 05/14/2016 4:44:38 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
They've written songs about this weapon - many of them over the years. Hell, this rifle has killed more deer and Indians than any other firearm ever.

You might as well say you think a Colt's Peacemaker is an ugly pistol as well

55 posted on 05/14/2016 4:50:02 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Big Red Badger
well speaking of expensive old guns this was a funny movie


56 posted on 05/14/2016 4:50:10 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Charles Martel

I was lucky enough to own an 1886 carbine in .45-70 a few years ago and I took it to the Dam Nack Virginia rifle range for some recreational shooting once. I fired a couple of shots at the 200m target then laid it on my shooting mat for a while let my shoulder stop throbbing.

A Royal Marine NCO picked up my carbine without asking me and fired it. He yelled “that bloody well ‘urt!” I told that of course it and next time, ask.

He didn’t to try again, silly Brit.


57 posted on 05/14/2016 4:56:34 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Get stuffed Cm...plenty of Win lovers up here...i have several


58 posted on 05/14/2016 5:08:58 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Inyo-Mono

That’s a great rifle. I’ve got a Marlin Guide Gun. A lever action “just seems right” in the woods for whitetail.


59 posted on 05/14/2016 5:20:53 PM PDT by Strac6 (The primaries are only the semi-finals. ALL THAT MATTERS IS DEFEATING HILLARY IN NOVEMBER.)
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To: Strac6

Nice. Have always liked the Marlins. What caliber is yours? I would love to have one in 45/70.


60 posted on 05/14/2016 5:31:51 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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