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1 posted on 10/10/2016 8:30:20 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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We complete Trumps victory and remake the party. There is no real alternative as we are at end of day a 2-party system. You are with the Republicans or you are with the Democrats. Anything else is simply martyrdom and wasting time.


32 posted on 10/10/2016 10:24:06 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump/Pence or Crooked Hillary & Kreepy, The Pedo Klown)
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If Trump loses, then it's all over. Don't worry about politics any more. Enjoy your life. Travel. Spend time with friends. Get a hobby. Play golf. Exercise. Have you been to the Grand Canyon or Glacier National Park? Go Galt.

The Left will have prevailed and they will cement their victory forever with amnesty for tens of millions of illegals and millions more newcomers from the Third World.

Non-Lefist politicians will never win again.

If Trump wins, then there is still a small sliver of hope. If that's the case, I'm waiting until the second year of his first term to see if America can still come back.

35 posted on 10/10/2016 10:45:45 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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It's not really a matter of LEAVING the Rep party, but CHANGING the Rep party. I'm 65 now and have been conservative all my life. The Rep party started in my life as the RINO Rockefeller party that basically said I want a tax cut and I don't care about the rest. They NEVER won anything. Then came the Silent Majority phase and Dixiecrats breaking off with G. Wallace. The party started to change with Christians standing against segregation and abortion a little later. The Viet Nam war came and we got the patriots and the Dems got the flag burners and dope head commies. By this time, we started to win some races. The Kennedy/King assassinations started a serious attempt to regulate guns so we got the gun people. After years of an uneasy alliance, the RINO's raised their weak heads on they wobbly spines again. The the Tea Party movement appeared. The RINO's, of course, pooh poohed the barbarians at the gate at their own peril and the Tea Party replaced many of the RINO's with regular Americans conservatives. The Tea Party has been relegated to the ash heap, but the people are still there and still mad.

The time is now for the Rep party to decide which direction they are willing to go. IMO, if the RINO's don't accept the real conservatives, the conservatives will start a new party, insuring the Rep won;t win anything again. The Libertarians THINK they have the answer, but it will NEVER amount to anything but a dope smoking anarchy party. The Tea Party wants a tax cut, but they are also Christians that don't want men in their daughters dressing rooms. Their are over 300 million guns in America. Even Dems are nervous about losing the 2nd Amendment. Then we have the patriots that love the troops and don't burn flags and don't spit on cops.

The Repubs need to think about their futures right NOW! They will NEVER win again if they can't figure out what America wants and build a coalition soon. You don't have to kill babies to get women's vote. You don't have to give food stamps to get the black vote.

Just think about the "union" vote hearing Trump talk about a redo on NAFTA. Conservatives have the high ground, but we look ridiculous right now with our circular firing squad.

The time for a new party is NOW, whether it's the New Rep party or the New Tea Party, but it cannot remain the RINO party.

36 posted on 10/10/2016 10:59:40 PM PDT by chuckles
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Well, if it’s a nationalist party you want to start, count me out. As a conservative I strongly believe in the federalism and constitutionalism this union was founded on, and which nationalism of course is the very anti-thesis of. Nationalism is, in short, anti-Americanism. Maybe if you’re one of these big-government nationalist agrarian-populist progressives I keep hearing about, you could look into restarting the People’s Party from the late 1800’s - or you could just vote for Hillary, since she supports your big-government agenda.


38 posted on 10/10/2016 11:01:02 PM PDT by Wyoming Cowboy
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You do not leave.

The entire point is we are going to make them leave. This is the start of the uniparty purge.


41 posted on 10/10/2016 11:07:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Actions as opposed to words?
Ryan and the whole GOP can kiss my hairy ass.
Clintons are rapists and enablers.
Trump spoke poorly.
Big difference but the “elites” are trying to protect their gravy train.


43 posted on 10/11/2016 2:39:17 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Go Trump, Give em hell BABY.,)
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Perhaps this year will be the "cleansing of the RINOS" where the GOP finally says "No, you may not put an R after your name if you don't support our platform."
45 posted on 10/11/2016 4:50:43 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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I left after McCain - I went independent - then, after Romney - I registered DEM (here in NY) to screw with their primaries from now on. It has been a joy to tell the push pollers what I think of Louise Slaughter etc...


46 posted on 10/11/2016 5:30:35 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (clean up is a breeze)
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Sign up to be a precinct chairman
You can change the party.


47 posted on 10/11/2016 6:31:20 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Don’t go wobbly! Make your voice heard to your reps and to the Republican hierarchy! Never give up.


48 posted on 10/11/2016 6:35:57 AM PDT by alamogal
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You can simply mark “get involved with politics and vote GOP” off your to-do list as it has ceased to be a useful function.


50 posted on 10/11/2016 7:21:30 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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Where to, Where to

Lots of choices but most are irrelevant with regards to national politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

51 posted on 10/11/2016 7:27:32 AM PDT by deport
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There’s not another place to go. We have to fix what we have, by ridding ourselves of the corrupt and self-seeking.


54 posted on 10/11/2016 9:55:58 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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