Posted on 04/19/2017 8:13:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Tote up the cost of living independently in constant dollars and see if there isn’t an explanation there.
That was my uncle. He was still taking college courses at 40. I was already married with one kid, and well established in my career at the time.
Yep, reality is if you combine kids going to school for a living, kids not wanting to work, and the kids that want work won't except what is available in the Obama 8 year recession - the outcome is kids living home and not working.
Where did I say that? I humorously dragged out an old cliche ("it's a 'trick question'") to make a humorous point, very briefly, inoffensively (I thought), referring to the survey, without any polemics expressed or implied.
My oldest is 19 and I’d kill him if he were to married right now.
By not commenting on that sentence, I am giving you reasonable license to a little humor of your own.
Stupid Stupid Stupid.
Now I'm not sure what all you intended by that trifecta. Benefit of the doubt goes to: it wasn't intended for a fellow-freeper, me.
No way was stupid stupid stupid intended for you but the article.
Funny you mentioned living together. One of my daughters (Kid #2 getting married in September to the Physical Therapist who still lives at home, too) mentioned today while we went for her bridal gown fitting, that Fiance mentioned living together but never mentioned engagement (it was a secret as the engagement was a surprise to her but he told us 4 months prior). I said “of course he did and that would never happen!” because my kids know how I and our faith feel about living together prior to marriage. I don’t ask much of my kids but that is something that I would have a very hard time with - you want to live together then get married first.
Anyway, one of her bridesmaids was in the car, she is getting married in July and she and her fiance have lived together for almost 3 years since they graduated college. She sorta gasped and I said that’s fine for you and other people but it’s not something I would be ok with and I hope my daughters will at least give that honor and respect to me.
Hey we’re all about tolerance and inclusion right? ;) Sometimes it’s me that has to be tolerated and respected.
And as you said, here in NJ, home prices and property taxes are ridiculously high. Why take on that debt or throwing money away with renting? It just doesn’t make financial sense. IMO.
I know this post is long and I’m sorry but you also mentioned the failure to launch and ITA. Bitter people invented that term. Maybe they babied their kids into adulthood but I didn’t. My kids were helping around the house, making their lunches and doing their laundry and cleaning bathrooms and dusting and running the vac and helping prepare dinner from middle school, playing varsity sports, achieving academic success and scholarships for college, and working at a job from the day they turned 15.
Maybe they’re feminists who wanted “equality” without the consequences all that entails. Maybe they’re adult children who thought only of themselves when their parents became elderly and unable to live alone so they put them in nursing homes.
I stayed home for 14 years plus more to raise my 4 kids (not put them in daycare) and take care of elderly parents. I gave up any real semblance of a career. Thanks to my husband and HIS job that afforded us the ability with lots of modern sacrifices for me to be a SAHM then the primary caregiver for both my parents. My parents gave me the world and the least I could do was never put them in a nursing home, their greatest fear as they aged.
When my Dad (WWII vet) was dying, he used to say I shouldn’t have to care for him, bathe him, etc. I said why not? I had 4 kids and the youngest were 2 and 3 1/2. I was doing it already. It was life. And they took care of me. My kids were a bit older when my Mom had to finally move in (kicking and screaming because it was very hard for her to give up her independence even after my Dad had died) with us and they helped take care of her. The last year of her life they helped feed and bathe her every morning before school and after school in between their life/sports, etc.
It’s what families do, imo. Not the government, not any other agencies. Family takes care of family. I hope my kids take care of us when we no longer can.I hope I can babysit my eventual grandbabies so my kids don’t have to resort to daycare if they can’t stay home.
I binge watched a netflix series the last couple of days and the content is awesome and important issues were raised but the message and resolution is so messed up and this is what we are allowing the media to feed our kids.What we are allowing our schools to teach our kids. I’m sure the usual posters here will say the same things they usually say blah blah blah. They escaped so their kids aren’t affected (rotflmao-some of those posters kids voted for Hillary or the inconsequential Cruz)and allowed another Institution to be controlled by the same people that they bitch about daily.
13 Reasons Why. Be sure to note the villains, heroes, victims. The Agenda is apparent in an otherwise important series. We really are screwed if we don’t counteract (rather than abandon) the agenda going on in our schools,public/private/parochial.Media/Entertainment/News.
Exactly. And NJ keeps importing illegals/immigrants/section 8ers. I keep trying to convince my daughter who is getting married soon not to buy here but she and her fiance want to live here. She’s hardheaded like her mom, I guess. My Dad tried to discourage us from buying here but we did because I wanted to be close to family but not in South Philly. He kept telling us to buy in PA but we bought over the bridge in NJ.
Well said.
I’m glad you were able to tend to your family (both children and parents); inability to do so I’m sure is a factor in why some people forego families.
I’m in no hurry to push my children out, and would rather they stay and save than buy a house just to hand it back to the bank in a year or two. They certainly won’t be “co-habituating” with someone in their own place before marriage (or if they choose not to marry).
Family and jobs are both close by for us, so it was a sensible choice - as long as both are still here. The problem the state faces is that the McJobs simply won’t pay the bills any more, and too many good jobs have left.
The importing of the dreck is to keep the government worker caste employed (in employment-for-life situations); they are still quite willing and able to buy here.
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