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Norway’s PM criticized for comparing neo-Nazis to far left
TheLocal.no ^ | 18 August 2017 17:09 CEST+02:00

Posted on 08/18/2017 10:46:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

“The comments have been strongly criticized by some of Norway’s left-wing politicians.”

PM points out similarity of right and left wing nuts. Left wing nuts criticize him for it. Left-wing media treats that as news. Shocking.


21 posted on 08/19/2017 5:58:07 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Olog-hai

The left in Europe associates itself with the extreme left. Same as here.


22 posted on 08/19/2017 8:55:01 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Pollster1

I refuse to call left-wingers such as national socialists the “extreme right”; that is a Soviet term for them, and the internationalist left has abused it too long to falsely describe the right wing of the USA (Constitutional conservatives who are against all forms of socialism).

Mussolini was a communist who modified his beliefs to fit what Italians would accept, and that meant dispensing with the elimination of national identity, family, and religion that the internationalist left insisted on while keeping all the big government aspects, and that became fascism. Adolf made similar moves with national socialism while adding the notion of a superior race of people; he had Bismarck’s “state socialism” to draw on too. Nothing in there that could be recognized as “right wing”, essentially, even from the perspective of the old French parliament where monarchists sat on the right side while pro-republic politicians sat on the left.


23 posted on 08/19/2017 9:04:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Redmen4ever
Technically, there is no “center-left”. The goals of the left were always the same; the means to get there were always in place too, whether at a Fabian or Marxist (revolutionary) pace. The Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments both modified the USA from a republic into a democracy, and Friedrich Engels said the following about the goals thereof in The Principles of Communism:
  1. Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?

    No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.

    In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

  2. What will be the course of this revolution?

    Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. Direct in England, where the proletarians are already a majority of the people; indirect in France and Germany, where the majority of the people consists not only of proletarians, but also of small peasants and petty bourgeois who are in the process of falling into the proletariat, who are more and more dependent in all their political interests on the proletariat, and who must, therefore, soon adapt to the demands of the proletariat. Perhaps this will cost a second struggle, but the outcome can only be the victory of the proletariat.

    Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. …
There is not a single person on the left who has not worked towards this goal or worked against it.
24 posted on 08/19/2017 9:17:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“Where did you get the idea the killer in the car was an Obama supporter?”

By not following the facts of this story closely, I’ve stuck my foot in my mouth. I read something a few days ago that said that James Alex Fields Jr was formerly part of Occupy Wall Street and an Obama supporter. Apparently that was fake news, or at least a rush to judgment.

But after years of being maligned and called “racist” because of a conservative ideology (and not for any actual racism), I’m feeling a lot of anger toward the news media and the Democrats for their constant insults, hypocrisy, and life-threatening provocations.

NAZIs are national socialists. The ones calling us NAZIs are socialists. They are also globalists. Conservatives are only nationalists in the sense of putting our own nation’s interests first. We believe in a limited federal government. It is the leftists that want to continue to grow the federal government.

Conservatives have nothing in common with NAZIs or fascists. Liberals have lots in common. But they seize on any term with negative connotations and do what they do best: LIE and SLANDER.

I am becoming convinced that violence and war is inevitable. I am not willing to abandon my views, and they are not willing to change theirs. It’s odd they are not afraid to start a civil war right now. They will be big losers.


25 posted on 08/19/2017 9:32:16 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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