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Security Video Captures Deadly Puerto Rican National Guard Crash
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Posted on 05/03/2018 7:32:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: z3n

Yes Mr. GG2 said the same. Cargo shift.


21 posted on 05/03/2018 12:20:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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It’s hard to tell with such a short clip, but to my eye, it looked to have enough forward velocity for lift, unless it was fully loaded with fuel and cargo and flaps were off.

But if it was a cargo-shift forward of center mass, perhaps he couldn’t bring the nose up. Impossible to see from hat clip where the ailerons are, but if they were full up, then maybe it was the load shift.


22 posted on 05/03/2018 12:33:16 PM PDT by z3n
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwWfQb4Odo

The second security camera view (starting after halfway through this video) shows a lot more.

It appears level when it enters the view at the top (not an uncontrolled load shift) and though it appeared to be slowly losing altitude it didn’t look like a full stall, nor slow enough for one.

I’m still wondering if those flaps were set to zero too early, but I don’t know how far from the air strip this was. Perhaps a power loss.

The maneuver at the end is just nuts though. I can’t imagine the rationale for it being intentional unless the pilot decided the entire area was far to densely populated and overdeveloped for a horizontal makeshift crash landing and just sacrificed the plane and the crew for the sake of the people on the ground.


23 posted on 05/03/2018 12:43:16 PM PDT by z3n
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http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/uploads/65-0968


24 posted on 05/03/2018 1:04:31 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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WC-130. Weather.


25 posted on 05/03/2018 1:05:28 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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The maneuver at the end is just nuts though. I can’t imagine the rationale for it being intentional

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwWfQb4Odo

The second video is much more revealing. It shows the 130 having a distinct yaw to the left as it's course changed about 70 degrees without the bank you would expect with that type of turn.

At 2:45 to 2:51 the plane spins on the yaw axis. At about 2:46 the flat turn begins to be noticeable. At 2:49 it almost has the appearance of a flat spin. By 2:53 the course has changed by about 70 degrees and the plane takes a distinct nose down attitude. Then they spin in.

That flight profile points to hard over rudder or dual engine failure on the left wing, either catastrophic at climb out speed..

26 posted on 05/03/2018 5:02:42 PM PDT by pfflier
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Yup - the wing over stall looks like left side loss of thrust (dual engine failure) as seen from my office chair, in front of a PC screen.


27 posted on 05/03/2018 5:54:52 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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