Posted on 05/18/2018 1:18:15 PM PDT by Norski
Watch for the recall on Kidd extinguishers.
Yes, I am aware of it, and checked the ones I have. There are a lot of them. Thank you for reminding me, as there is a very large one I forgot about until just now.
Put them down
And a good number of their stupid irresponsible owners
Well this sure explains the pack of 7 weiner dogs killing a lady the other day. They thought they were Pit Bull’s.
It’s a lie about “nanny dogs”. Nonsense. They were killers specifically then, when pits abounded for gambling with fighting dogs. Apparently it’s another lie that was manufactured LATE in history and repeated enough that people believe it.
As to German Shepherds - yes, they have a problem. Had problems. I adore GS but I don’t deny there have been problems - breeding toward aggression can do that (notice I stated “breeding” - yes genetics very much counts). But never have GS - or Dobies, or Rotties even - come close to the %s that PBT types put up (and yes, that’s multiple breeds).
I used to defend them when I was in college - wrote a paper on it and all. But I’ve seen more since then, and the numbers don’t lie.
You could check here first, if you like.
http://blog.dogsbite.org/2015/08/who-can-identify-pit-bull-dog-owner-of-ordinary-intelligence.html
They were mutts with Dachshund in them all.
Someone here thought they looked like they could be part PBT, but I could not see a good pix to tell.
Calling out one dog type for a certain attack does NOT erase the fact the vast majority of attacks and killings are of another type.
I know everything I need to know about Pit Bulls after twice having my dog attacked by them, neither time did the Pits get hold of my dog.
The sole known published reference to the now popular “nanny dog” or “nursemaid dog” notion, before the rise of opposition to breed-specific laws in recent decades, came in a 1922 work of fiction, Pep: The Story of A Brave Dog, by Clarence Hawkes (1869-1954), a blind man who wrote by dictating his stories and, though able to spin a gripping yarn, routinely muddled his facts.
Pit bulls and pit mixes, before Pep: The Story of A Brave Dog, were known mostly from use in dogfighting, rat-killing contests, baiting tethered bulls and bears, tearing the ears off of corralled pigs, hunting runaway slaves, terrorizing Native Americans, mauling prisoners of war at the notorious Andersonville camp during the U.S. Civil War, and of course for killing more than half of all human victims of random dog attacks, even in a time when rabies ran wild and no vaccine against rabies had been developed.
After publication of Pep: The Story of A Brave Dog, the allegation that pit bulls were ever once “nanny dogs” disappeared from print for another 49 years, during which time rabies was controlled but pit bulls continued to account for substantially more than half of all the fatal dog attacks on record.
The next published reference to pit bull as “nanny dog” came in a 1971 New York Times article by Walter R. Fletcher about the admission of the Staffordshire bull terrier to the list of breeds eligible to be exhibited in American Kennel Club shows.
In that article, Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of America president Lilian Rant acknowledged to Fletcher that Staffordshires “had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name [the name of Staffordshires] became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit.”
Rant then alleged, without offering substantiation and apparently without being asked for any, that “The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a ‘nursemaid dog.’”
One must wonder whether pit bull advocacy as we know it today might have emerged, had Fletcher traced Rant’s rant back to the only evident source.
The above is excerpted from a book review here : http://www.animals24-7.org/2015/12/27/review-pep-the-story-of-a-brave-dog/
I am against breed-specific legislation, precisely because one cannot positively identify the breed/type of dog without documentation (which is rare for any except maybe 10% of the dog population). And this is complicated more by mutts, who (yes, genetics works!) can inherit lots of those traits, or not.
(And yes, my beloved German Shepherds would probably also be part of BSL, despite probably being the #1 popular dog of all time and which has done more to help mankind than any other).
Consider also that Bulldogs and Boston Terriers and Bull Terriers are part of the big “bully” (ha ha) family - but their aggressive traits were bred - yes bred - out of them decades ago.
You haven’t had to help friends who have been subject to anti Pitbull laws. My hatred knows no bounds at anyone who would suggest or support those, no pain or punishment that I could conceive of would be too severe to inflict on someone who would have some of the pitties I know put down merely because of their breed. the bad ones, sure, just as with humans, some need killing; and I wouldn’t even argue that there has been selection for traits that aren’t valid in our civilized society, but someone who would condemn the dog merely on the basis if its breed? No limit on what I’d visit on them, enough to shock the crap out of anyone everf associated with ISIS, the ANC or the Roman Empire, for starters.
That's what the local police officers carry for dogs.
Humor of the darkest type.
http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html
Interesting that yours mentions a 1922 book. Probably also a bit late, but interesting anyway.
Also read The Truth regarding old articles about PBT/bully attacks. Highly interesting.
Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics..
That was a comment I picked up from a co-worker Clive Arledge who was from England...
Fits nicely in this situation
https://barkpost.com/pit-bulls-history-of-americas-dog/
Callous breeding not the nature of it. Breed Specific Laws are on the way out as they should be
Dig In...
You need to lighten up, then.
As for me, you’re conflating BSL with disliking and distrusting PBTs. I don’t like them, don’t trust, but I do not support BSL.
Oh what’s the lie?
And why are people so bent on picking on this (type) of dog?
What would be the end game, the benefit to picking on some type of dog?
Are you saying 68% of human deaths are NOT caused by PBT types?
Even if you factor in mutts (funny when we’re really talking about a bunch of breeds forming a type, not just 1 breed), and total misidentification (also odd if it has an owner), 2/3 of the damage probably only whittles down a small bit - let’s say 50%. That’s still alot of guilt.
I’d also like to know WHY even now, as well as a century ago, a random PBT needs to have those huge harnesses. Which are not really good for control, BTW, but better for the dog controlling you - or a draft cart.
Never did look that far - what in hell are they for?
Just give it some time. You will have surprising new experiences.
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