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About to install the Windows 10 April 2018 Update? You might want to wait (tr, Avast A/V)
The Register ^ | May 22, 2018 | Richard Speed

Posted on 05/23/2018 3:07:09 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: Luke21
> AVG went cuckoo lately too. It turned off and messed up drivers. I had to switch to Malwarebytes.

Microsoft really wants you to use THEIR antivirus (for Win10 that's "Windows Defender"; for Win7 it's "Microsoft Security Essentials".

Everything else is a little more dicey as far as stability. But MS's antivirus ratings aren't as good as some of the others.

61 posted on 05/23/2018 5:26:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: newfreep
> I have Avast on my PC. I updated to 1803. I have had no problems.

That is good to hear. I'm suspicious that it's more than just AVAST, but it may be a while before all the facts come out, if ever.

62 posted on 05/23/2018 5:28:53 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

For those with Win10 who might be experiencing this issue:

“Windows 10 1803 Upgrade Issues - The Black Desktop Of Death And How To Fix It”
http://www.thecomputercellar.com/windows-10-1803-upgrade-issues-the-black-desktop-of-death-and-how-to-fix-it


63 posted on 05/23/2018 5:29:54 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk
I'm curious, why? I run Mint and am perfectly happy with it. What is it about Xubuntu that changed your mind?
64 posted on 05/23/2018 5:58:54 PM PDT by plsvn
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To: LouieFisk

Google tags your unique machine identifiers. Google adware on pages tags you even if you are not logged in. Use an ad blocker like ghostery or a browser like Brave


65 posted on 05/23/2018 5:59:59 PM PDT by cyberstoic
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To: cyberstoic

“Google tags your unique machine identifiers. Google adware on pages tags you even if you are not logged in. Use an ad blocker like ghostery or a browser like Brave”

I’m too lazy to use Ghostery, Ublock Origin works fine. Also, if you give Opera browser a whirl it, uses a build-in proxy (you can switch it off, tho.


66 posted on 05/23/2018 6:03:27 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: From The Deer Stand

You probably already tried this but it can’t hurt..have you tried toggling the ScrLk (Scroll Lock) key? It changes the inputting behavior in Excel.


67 posted on 05/23/2018 6:05:02 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
...hire employees who know what they’re doing.

I've thought for many years that, it's the left leaning corporate culture within the big tech companies that drives down standards of excellence among the staff, and results in substandard, crappy products.

Unless the corporate culture changes, the staff will continue being substandard, and so will the products.

68 posted on 05/23/2018 6:08:03 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: LouieFisk
> For those with Win10 who might be experiencing this issue:

> “Windows 10 1803 Upgrade Issues - The Black Desktop Of Death And How To Fix It”

Excellent!

69 posted on 05/23/2018 6:27:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: for-q-clinton

Exactly. Yet another user and password of the 50 or so that I have to memorize and remember otherwise the software may not work. Thank goodness I had it written down. Btw, you are not suppose to write it down. And I feel sorry for someone who is not tech savvy.


70 posted on 05/23/2018 6:41:14 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dayglored
If you update ANY Windows update within the first 30 days after release, you run the risk of having to install the update to the update. 😁
71 posted on 05/23/2018 7:01:14 PM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction.)
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To: dayglored

I just updated our Windows 10 machine running Avast! without any problems.


72 posted on 05/23/2018 7:04:57 PM PDT by Dahoser
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To: dayglored

I ended up with an F drive on my computer that was supposed to be invisible and kept getting a message that it was low on space. I found instructions on how to make it invisible and it’s apparently one of the problems with this update.


73 posted on 05/23/2018 7:21:51 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: rockrr
I’m so glad they got rid of Safe Mode - LoL...

It's still there. You just have to know how to find it. Do a search of "how to boot win 10 into safe mode."

74 posted on 05/23/2018 7:27:57 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Interesting - thanks!
Filed under “learn something new everyday”

Unfortunately BitLocker interrupts the process but I’ll play with it more..


75 posted on 05/23/2018 7:42:38 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: LouieFisk

Where do you get a copy of Win 8.1?

Got 10 on a current HP laptop and absolutely detest it.


76 posted on 05/23/2018 8:06:58 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: dayglored

Is your Win 10 machine running just fine, and doing everything as well as you expect it to, and you have good antivirus and antispyware protection, outside of Windows own efforts?

Then quit allowing Win 10 updates; you likely do not need them as they “fix” nothing that concerns you.

And yes you can stop Win 10 updates.

No matter how your system connects to the Internet, whether by a cable to a modem or router, or by Wifi somehow, you can set a setting for that specific connection - the specific “network” connection you use - to “metered”, which says to Windows you pay for that connection by some method that charges you by the minute or hour. It does not matter if that is true or not, you can set it that way.

Believing you must pay for your Internet connection time, (once your connection is set to “metered”), and knowing not how long the Win 10 update will take, the Win 10 update process is forced to stop and ask you if it is ok to run the update.

I have found it does not ask until after I have an activated working Internet connection, and once I decline the update, it does not ask again until I have either shut off that connection and then reconnected it, or have shut down the machine and then started it back up, and made an active Internet connection again.


77 posted on 05/24/2018 7:57:05 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: BuffaloJack
Don’t they check this crap before releasing it?

You are their unpaid beta tester.

The only reason I look at these threads is to make me smile at all that I'm listening. Been using Linux since before Redhat was a thing.

78 posted on 05/24/2018 8:42:11 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Wuli
> And yes you can stop Win 10 updates.

You cannot turn off Windows 10 updates completely or permanently.

None of the so-called "disable updates" mechanisms that abound on the internet are reliable, much less permanent, other than removing internet access. They all turn out to "defer" updates, not "disable" them, or they merely disable automatic installation -- you do the installation manually, but the updates are still forced on you.

Microsoft has stated repeatedly that you cannot avoid Win10 updates. Period. You can only defer them for various lengths of time based on which edition of Win10 and how you manage your machines. On Microsoft's forum site:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update/how-can-i-disable-updates-in-windows-10/40b37a2b-e9f3-4766-9e44-44ab33af488e
we see that using GPO, "feature updates" can be deferred for up to a year, and that appears to be the limit. "Security updates" (a.k.a."quality updates") cannot be deferred as long as "feature updates", about a month.

Microsoft has also stated repeatedly that they will not tolerate Windows machines that are not doing updates being on the internet, and religiously identifies workarounds and hacks and makes them fail. MS has lots of capable engineers whose job is to anticipate and defeat attempts to avoid updates.

The hack of disabling/killing the update service is unreliable because Windows will turn it back on if it sees that it's off. Repeatedly killing it is merely a battle against a stealthy intelligent opponent who has all the advantages.

The hack of setting the network connection to "metered" (to avoid downloading updates) only works with WiFi, not Ethernet. There are random uncertified programs that fiddle with the system networking in undocumented ways to allow Ethernet to be "metered" (e.g. https://www.rizonesoft.com/downloads/windows-10-update-switch/) but they are not guaranteed to work, or to be bug-free, or even malware-free.

If you are a masochist, consider the "Windows Update for Business" settings, which give the most control and longest defer times:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-wufb-group-policy
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-configure-wufb#pause-quality-updates

But regardless, you will lose the battle, because if you're connected to the internet, you WILL take the updates eventually.

Period.

That said, I invite anyone who truly believes they have a working method for completely and permanently avoiding Win10 updates, to describe the method, and then wait a year or so, and demonstrate that their so-called "block" method wasn't merely a "defer" method.

79 posted on 05/24/2018 8:48:25 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: zeugma; BuffaloJack
>> Don’t they check this crap before releasing it?

> You are their unpaid beta tester.

Correction: YOU ARE PAYING MICROSOFT for the privilege of being their beta tester.

Your statement applies more accurately to Linux, where you still get to deal with bugs, but at least the OS is free so you're not out the cost of a Windows license.

80 posted on 05/24/2018 9:04:57 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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