Posted on 08/16/2018 3:02:08 AM PDT by LibWhacker
In the words of a great musical physicist,
“Nuthin from nuthin leaves nuthin”
“except for this maddening connection problem I’ve been having.”
Serves you right for posting in the middle of the night ;)
I was thinking about how long you could survive with basic needs. Several weeks without food, several days without water, a few minutes without oxygen, maybe two minutes without air (in a vacuum). How long could you live without space? You couldn’t live without nothing, if that were all that space is.
Try this for starters:
Empty space has more energy than everything in the Universe, combined
Roger Penrose, not to be confused with Jonathan Penrose. Penrose-Tal 1960:
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.e4 g6 7.Bd3 Bg7 8.Nge2 O-O 9.O-O a6 10.a4 Qc7 11.h3 Nbd7 12.f4 Re8 13.Ng3 c4 14.Bc2 Nc5 15.Qf3 Nfd7 16.Be3 b5 17.axb5 Rb8 18.Qf2 axb5 19.e5 dxe5 20.f5 Bb7 21.Rad1 Ba8 22.Nce4 Na4 23.Bxa4 bxa4 24.fxg6 fxg6 25.Qf7+ Kh8 26.Nc5 Qa7 27.Qxd7 Qxd7 28.Nxd7 Rxb2 29.Nb6 Rb3 30.Nxc4 Rd8 31.d6 Rc3 32.Rc1 Rxc1 33.Rxc1 Bd5 34.Nb6 Bb3 35.Ne4 h6 36.d7 Bf8 37.Rc8 Be7 38.Bc5 Bh4 39.g3 1–0
It’s an interesting topic that reminds us that our knowledge and understanding are limited.
I believe in things that I experience but that are not amenable to the senses: self-awareness, free-will, right and wrong, etc.. Some people can not explain these things and consider them illusory. However I experience these things as much as I experience sight. When I experience something directly, and someone calls it an illusion, I conclude that they are rejecting valid data. That can’t be science.
Perhaps some insights are to be found in the “void” of space.
How long could you live without space?
Wow, that’s a horrible thought! I’ve never considered it before. But I think I’ve just developed a new phobia. Thanks.
If you were out of food, water or air, you’d die. So it seems the least physically substantial the necessity, the more agonizing the death, judging from a fish’s reaction to being taken out of water, all that flopping around and all.
The problem being with space is there’d be no room to flop around in, no matter how much pain you were in.
So if you were taken out of space, would that be the same as being spaced out to death? No, that’s just silly and doesn’t sound as painful as we already know it should be.
Maybe it’d be somewhat like being instantly thrown into the center of a black hole, since we supposedly know space and time are both destroyed there, because one cannot exist without the other.
So there’s a clue: being yanked out of space would mean you would also be yanked out of time, and you would die instantly. You couldn’t survive two minutes without space because time doesn’t exist without space and there’d be no two minutes happening for you after you were removed from space.
I don’t know, but I do know it’s all just too horrible to contemplate!
*ping of interest*
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.
¡Qué Bueno!
The Big Bang was God speaking the Universe into existence. The Moment of Creation.
If you think of X, Y, Z as colors instead of lengths then the appearance of what we sense as 3D space could emerge from no space. If we can figure out how to re-tune these colors we can jump to different locations in time and space without having to travel. That might hint at how particles separated by time and space can have an instant spooky connection.
The Bible has much to consider on this topic. Comes down to God is stretching out spacetime in which we have our existence. Now consider the ‘latent’ energy of that expansion ... Like stretching a rubber band.
“Is empty space really the same as nothing?”
What a vacuous question.
Might as well ask a democrat why Hillary should be President.
Any answer you get will mean absolutely nothing.
Behold the void!
Consider it not the void of nothingness
but thine own intellect, blissful and shining.
but thine own intellect, blissful and shining.>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thine own intellect is merely a construct which must be maintained continually. At death it ceases to exist. It is called the ego, which is non existant. As such we work to continually maintain who we are, a continually evolving self image.
So thine own intellect shines only for ones self.make it transparent through Shamatha meditation, so one can not be tricked into thinking it is “Thine own intellect shining.”It has no independent existence except what we give it moment to moment.
What shines is not intellect, but ones own basic human nature, unconditional basic goodness or bodhicitta.To touch that one must rest ones mind in peace, slow the incessant discursiveness of thought and then see what lies underneath.The way is to practice Shamatha meditation .
https://www.shambhala.com/how-to-practice-shamatha-meditation-2253.html
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