Posted on 09/01/2018 7:30:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
You'll have to add jmacusa to your "Role of Honor".
I know exactly how you feel.
He’s already on there with the rest of you cowards
In spirit perhaps, but I'm not seeing him on your actual list. But it's your list, deal with it as you wish.
Southern democrats of the 18th century were conservative to the bone. States rights conservatives. The Whig/Republican Party, especially the Republican Party of Lincoln, were big government liberals. Lincoln and Marx were great admirers of each other.
Cotton production wasn't fully mechanized until the 1940s or even the 1950s.
Some of that long delay had to do with the lasting desolation brought by the Civil War and the poverty of the Great Depression of the 1930s, but there were serious technological difficulties involved.
One was the difficulty of removing the bolls that were ready for harvest without destroying the rest of the plant. Another was the problem of the mechanism clogging as it harvested more and more bolls.
There were all kinds of ideas for cotton harvesting mechanisms and many of them proved to be dead-ends. And having a captive labor force tended to discourage technological innovation.
If all went well for the CSA, you might have seen cotton production mechanized by the 1920s, but it could have taken a while longer, as it did in our timeline. You might have seen slavery abolished at some point after independence in favor of "neo-slavery" -- systems of control that weren't technically slavery but didn't allow much freedom to the agricultural workforce.
He spent most of the war looking for a good general. He finally found one in U.S. (Unconditional Surrender) Grant.
Many myths about that war that aren't really that true.
But Abraham Lincoln, he was a man. He would tell a good story. His life story was pretty amazing. How did he ever get to be president? But he did. And he had it way tougher than Donald Trump. That, I can tell you.
Some people start thinking that if Lincoln wasn't a pure holy angel he has to be the devil, but he was just flesh and blood and trying to cope with impossible situations.
Any US president would have to put up a minimal effort to resist the secessionist wave. If he didn't, people would be cursing him for standing aside and just letting the country fall apart. That was something the Confederates should have anticipated.
I think part of the problem was that Jefferson Davis wasn't as smart or as flexible as he needed to be. He rushed to war when he should have been more cautious.
As much as I admire Donald Trump, I think Abraham Lincoln assumed the presidency under much worse conditions and had much more hate directed at him.
I sometimes wonder how differently things would have turned out if say William Seward won the presidency. Well Alaska might not be a state today, for one thing.
Ports had little to do with North Carolina providing good uniforms for it’s troops. In early 1862, the NC government purchased an abandoned knitting mill. They began to manufacture their own uniform cloth. The NC Govt. then established a sewing operation near the mill and produced uniforms for NC soldiers. The NC govt. made many thousand uniform trousers and jackets at this facility, right up to the end of the war. Getting the clothing to their troops however was a different set of problems which they unable to solve the last year of the war.
Cite a source for “forcing immigrants off the ship straight into a uniform like in the North.” If you can. Even esteemed historians with a Southern leaning, such as Douglas S. Freeman and Shelby Foote, never made such a claim.
So you don't know what Fort Sumter was. I should have known.
Not very bright there, genius.
Here's a clue...Special Session Message July 4, 1861
Accumulations of the public revenue, lying within them, [9] had been seized for the same object.
Sorry to bust your boilerplate screeds with some facts, but Lincoln cared about tax revenue and maintaining control of the purse strings, not freeing the slaves.
If you weren't such a retard you would know that.
Ask yourself this...if the war was over slavery then why wasn't the Emancipation Proclamation only done two years after the war started as a means to boost enlistment and to garner support for the war?
This might help educate you as well...
Why The War Was Not About Slavery
Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress officially declared that the war WAS NOT AGAINST SLAVERY but to preserve the Union. (By preserving the Union, of course, they actually meant not preserving the real Union but ensuring their control of the federal machinery.)
You probably won't read that last article, but others may and they will be able to counter your BS, extremely prejudiced account of things.
You fit the bill on that last one.
Your own words kill your argument.
OMG! It’s figurative, not literal.
it was an asinine statement.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
You do agree that a large number of new immigrants were drafted into the Union Army, don’t you?
Zebulon Vance was a great governor and would have been regardless of his situation, but given the circumstance of governing a State that voted somewhat reluctantly and very late to secede, after more or less being surrounded by seceding States, was an extremely difficult task and he did so with great concern over the people of his State. NC not only purchased manufacturing facilities for uniforms but also purchased it’s own Navy. Vance was a westerner, and western NC had little truck with slavery, secessionist sentiment was very low there. He was a good man. No doubt some here would condemn him after the fact as a racist or some such silliness. Well, no, he was a good and decent man.
Nope. Less than 10% of the soldiers were drafted into the army. For an immigrant to be drafted, he had to declare his intention of becoming an American citizen. Married immigrants were not subject to being drafted, much as married citizens were not subject to being drafted until all single men had been called up. Ninety percent of the Union Army voluntarily enlisted. About 25 percent of the Army were not born in the United States. obviously immigrants were not drafted in large numbers into the army.
They enlisted voluntarily in large numbers though.
Vance also hated the Confederate Draft. He signed thousands of exemptions for North Carolina citizens to keep them from being drafted into the Confederate Army.
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