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Microsoft yanks the document-destroying Windows 10 October 2018 Update (#1809)
The Register ^ | Oct 8, 2018 | Richard Speed

Posted on 10/09/2018 10:23:42 AM PDT by dayglored

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To: Billthedrill
> ...If I were Microsoft I'd be thinking about changing the entire paradigm of taking major portions of their user population through trauma four times a year - yes, the old system of monthly patching was cumbersome but it didn't require gigabyte-sized downloads and so many changes all at once that they're impossible to isolate, and if a bad one turned up - it happens - it could be rolled back individually. ...

My theory on that is that something in the Windows 10 architecture doesn't allow the partial/incremental updates that we (*cough*) enjoyed with earlier versions of the OS.

I would not be surprised if they did something in how Win10 works, such that they HAVE to release these huge "replacements" instead of "patches". But that's speculation on my part.

21 posted on 10/09/2018 11:33:52 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: C210N

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The files are probably still there, but the directory structure is wrong.


22 posted on 10/09/2018 11:34:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dayglored
< having gone directly into the hands of users rather than spending some time in the Windows Insider Release Preview ring first.

So skipping a key real-world testing point led to a bad result. I guess no one at Microsoft was smart enough to figure out that risk.

I wonder if this is related to the Cisco fiasco a couple of weeks ago.

23 posted on 10/09/2018 11:36:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: 1FreeAmerican
> I think this might also have affected my Win7 machine. I use Microsoft Office online version and this morning all my pdf file icons were different and files were missing. Not enough time this morning to sort it out though.

That's pretty scary, but I don't see offhand how that could be caused by a Windows 10 update. Maybe something changed in their cloud ("online") storage as well, though. Please post back an update to this comment when you have it figured out -- that's one I'd want to watch!

24 posted on 10/09/2018 11:37:53 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: editor-surveyor
> The files are probably still there, but the directory structure is wrong.

Maybe. But from https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/05/windows_10_wipes_files/:

The problem appears to be that data stored in a user profile directory can be deleted. Permanently. Thus users who have cheerfully performed the update found themselves with a lot more disk space but none of their precious files. One Redditor reckoned that all files in their <user>\Documents folder had gone but, on the plus side, there was now an extra 60GB of disk space. Yay Windows.

25 posted on 10/09/2018 11:43:41 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

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Sure glad that nothing we have is on win 10!
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26 posted on 10/09/2018 11:50:46 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dayglored; ImJustAnotherOkie
>> As I understood disabling TCP/IP v6 causes the problem?

> Interesting, I haven't seen that yet. Gotta link?

Found one on BetaNews, but it's not the file-deletion problem, it's a network connection issue:

Windows 10 October 2018 Update breaks Microsoft Edge and Windows Store apps for some users

"Microsoft is aware of an issue after installing the Windows 10 October 2018 Update (version 1809) that prevents Microsoft Store apps from connecting to the Internet on devices that have disabled IPv6."

Although the company is working on a proper solution, for now you can get around the issue by simply enabling IPv6.

They also have a mention that the missing files are deleted, but not overwritten (unless you've been using the computer since the update), so a deleted-file recovery tool might be able to get them back, assuming you don't install the tool on the same disk, of course... yikes.
27 posted on 10/09/2018 11:51:15 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: 1FreeAmerican

May be re-associated to Edga instead of Reader.
You can change it back easily if so.

They’ve been pushing using Edge for PDFs for a while.

They love Edgs, I expect IE will be gone soon.


28 posted on 10/09/2018 11:57:37 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: dayglored

And Onedrive is a network connection issue. Onedrive seems to be the culprit in this.

I’ve paused my updates for the time being.


29 posted on 10/09/2018 12:08:10 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: SkyDancer

Maybe, they hired the Apple Quality Assurance folks.


30 posted on 10/09/2018 12:08:46 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

How do you pause Windows 10 updates?


31 posted on 10/09/2018 12:10:38 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: dayglored

Windows is getting more lame with each update.


32 posted on 10/09/2018 12:17:58 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: SkyDancer

“Don’t the software people check out updates before sending them out?”

The customers serve that function. Sad.


33 posted on 10/09/2018 12:19:44 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: bankwalker

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028233/windows-10-schedule-a-restart-or-pause-updates

Windows 10 automatically downloads and installs updates to make sure your device is up to date. To finish installing the update, your device will need to restart. If you’re asked to restart your device while you’re busy using it, you can schedule the restart for a more convenient time:
Select the Start button, then select Settings > Update & security > Windows Update .
Select Schedule the restart and choose a time that’s convenient for you. Note: You can set active hours to make sure automatic restarts for updates only happen when you’re not using your PC. Learn about active hours for Windows 10
If you’re using Windows 10 Pro or Windows 10 Enterprise, you can choose to temporarily pause updates from being downloaded and installed:
Select the Start button, then select Settings > Update & security > Windows Update . Under Update settings, select Advanced options.
Turn on Pause updates. Note: After a certain amount of time, or after canceling a pause, you’ll need to install the latest updates before you can pause updates again.


34 posted on 10/09/2018 12:21:09 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

There is also a registry change you can make.

IMO, only this would be sufficient:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU

Key: NoAutoUpdate

Type: DWORD

Value: 1

To enable updates again, remove AU registry key or delete NoAutoUpdate DWORD.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Windows Insider MVP

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https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/1038ba2f-5366-4d33-9a52-479dc1280729/how-do-i-edit-the-registry-to-permanently-disable-windows-updates?forum=win10itprosetup


35 posted on 10/09/2018 12:23:20 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Thank you Okie ...


36 posted on 10/09/2018 12:25:40 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: dayglored

It destroys documents?

Was Hillary running this?


37 posted on 10/09/2018 12:38:26 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dayglored

What did people EXPECT, when they went to the ‘cloud’?


38 posted on 10/09/2018 12:45:56 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: dayglored

In less than 10 words, can anyone explain the reason why Windows has gone from reliable and affordable with almost zero updates required - to a steaming pile of pig poo that is so unreliable and a major hassle that lots of people are turning elsewhere?

I mean, what happened?? Why?? It was an excellent product. Why can’t they repeat Vista or the like? What are they doing?


39 posted on 10/09/2018 12:46:19 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: Pollard

My daughter’s workplace bought new laptops for everybody, and gave her the opportunity to buy her old one for twenty-five bucks. She did so and gave it to me as a backup.

The Windows license belongs to her employer so before she got it their IT staff wiped it and installed Linux. Screaming fast, and does pretty much everything my Windows machine does with the apps they installed.


40 posted on 10/09/2018 2:08:36 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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