Posted on 10/13/2018 6:49:16 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater
“didn’t think she was overdone at all.”
Completely fabricated.
Utter trash.
What is?
The part where she goes and says they’re boys making balsa wood models.
Purely made up.
Yeah, they didn’t have a film crew following the actual Janet Armstrong around, so there were some writers involved in some scenes to convey certain feelings and emotions felt by the actual people at the actual time being portrayed in the film. That’s how films tend to work.
That’s how fake films that make things up work.
Bad PR all the way around.
I saw the movie today. Great. There were American Flags all over, INCLUDING THE ONE ON THE MOON WHERE YOU SEE ARMSTRONG SALUTING.
This is a very patriotic movie. If you see one movie at the theater this is the one. The large rockets, the spectacle of the landing... Can’t imagine how this would come anywhere close at home.
Also, Folks, THIS IS A SPIELBERG MOVIE. THE QUALITY IS SEEN IN EVERY SINGLE SHOT.
Bottom line, Golsing should have kept his trap shut, as he really spoiled the movie’s intent. I’d say it’s actually more about Armstrong then it is about the landing itself. I won’t spoil it for you, but Armstrong was a loner, and this movie takes you there and why. Death affected him much more than it did they other guys.
The movie makes you want to go out and read every thing you can about the man. I agree with others posting. Armstrong was the perfect guy.
Keep in mind, that they cram the pre Gemini, Gemini and Apollo missions in around 90 minutes. You’re attention is held thru out.
Also, Armstrongs wife is played by Claire Foy. This actress I think is British. She played Queen Elizabeth on the Crown Series? And she’s’ in the Girl With the DragonTattoo? Now an American wife.
I’d say, she slips in nicely as the next Dame of the British Movie and Theater. In fact, she’s amazing....
I know there are a lot of stubborn people on this forum, I’m one of them. You make your mind up, and you don’t budge. In the case of First Man, I can only say we have been Hoodwinked. This is a very very very Patiotic movie. There are American Flags all over the place, and they’re exposed at the right time. You have no doubt that this is us against the Russians.
Also, like now, you see these DO NOTHING Senators and the Left trying to kill the program when the going got tough.
WHen you think of what they did, it just blows your mind. To do this now would be a 10,000 times easier.
Armstrong died in 2012 and I’m now ashamed that more wssn’t done to honor him, but Obama was president. That tells you right there.
It’s late, and I’m typing in bed. Please excuse all my typos...
Did you see the movie? If not, I can understand. Your comments are not accurate. She plays a minor roll in this, and the later scenes where she confronts an ever growing detached Armstrong are really compelling.
Claire Foy is an amazing Actress. British I think. I was listening to see if she’d crack, and you’d pick up on her British accent. She didn’t. I guess you can thank the over dubbing, and countless retakes of the dialogue.
Never the less, I learned a lot about Armstrong the wife and the kids. I would love to hear about his two boys. What are the doing, what do they recall about the Dad.
An Amzing movie. Best movie I’ve see all year. So Star is Born, now that, to quote a fine gentleman, was TRASH.
I am glad you enjoyed it. I still won’t be going. Gosling destroyed any idea I would have had of seeing it. I am stubborn, I guess. And, why not an American to play an American hero? They chose someone who doesn’t respect America’s achievements.
I imagine the film will be a massive success and probably win Oscars. That is fine.
Like I said from the beginning. The PR was bad all the way around.
This is first and foremost, and American Story. If there is ANY criticism it’s because you found yourself wanting to know more.
They take the politics out of it, except for Kennedy setting the goal, and then depicting the Do Nothing Cowards in the Senate and the Left who were against this program.
I don’t know if you’ve ever gone to a movie alone, but I would strongly recommend that this is the one to go to, alone. If you’re not working, go to a matinee. Get your popcorn and perch yourself in a nice high seat in the middle.
This is great cinematography. I say Star is Born. It sucks Wet Dog Fur compared to this. You’ll also see the previews of Clint’s new movie coming out, The Mule.
In short, I’m stubborn too. I was NOT going to see the movie, but thanks to the person who posted his Vanity, I went, and I am happy I did.
Gosling, does an excellent job depicting Armstrong.
Armstrong was a loner, and you’ll see in the movie probably why.
Gosling, seems to think Armstrong transcended politics, patriotism, Americanism etc. I don’t think so. In his own way, he was deeply American, but I admit you don’t get the idea from seeing this.
The Astronauts, all of them were highly ambitious competitive men. Armstrong was on the verge of being grounded when he applied with NASA. And as you’d think, he was scorned because he was “a civillian.”
I will say something else. Whatever Spielberg touches is quality. Every scene, every seconds is perfection. This is an entertaining movie at several levels.
The wife. A lot of criticism here about her from people who didn’t see the movie. Unfounded.
You get the idea that Armstrong was first and foremost, the breadwinner. He was essentially jobless or about to be,when he decided to apply with NASA in the Space Progam.
The movie gives you the impression, that her was a deeply private man, who expected to have a long quiet life with his wife, she too. Not only does he get into the program, due to events beyond his control, he ends up leading the mission.
May count, there were 5Astronaut deaths. the movie covers that. It says nothing about the Russians once the American’s are engaged with them on this race. I suspect the Russians lost dozens if not more.
I grade movie on a 1 to 4. 1 is a dud. 2 can be acceptable,,but one you’ll not go to see again. I’d give Star is Born a 2. A 3 is entertaining, and worth the price of admission, and you might tell your friends to go. Clint eastwood’s Movie almost all start as a 3, then many go to a 4.
A 4, is entertaining, but it sticks with you afterwards, and for days to come. The fact that I’m compelled to write about my feelings tells you that it’s a great movie. The Founder, about the founder of McDonald’s Ray Kroc is a 4. I didn’t see it at the theater. Wish I did.
Forgive me to all of you out there, who have made a decision NOT to see this, but I must tell you that you’re missing a great experience.
Many movie theaters in the past few years have improved the seating, the sound and the visual spectacle. The idea of “waiting to see it on Netflix” might be fine for some, but I love seeing first run movies at the theater.
I can’t wait for Clint’s new one, The Mule. Why The Mule because from the trailer, I think he plays a Mule, ie a person who brings illegal drugs into the country. I am NOT going to wait for Netflix.
BTW, nice review. REad my posts on this movie, and tell me if you agree with me. A lot of people on this forum are going to miss a real experience. This is a movie that MUST be seen at the theater.
The movie was less about country and patriotism as it was the individual efforts of the men in the astronaut program - self sacrifice and the awesome conquest of something no one thought possible.
It was clearly an awesome visual when they actually got to the moon and opened the door to the LEM. Visually striking, and you could hear a pin drop in the movie theater.
Yeah, I think folks are really missing out due to faux-outrage and virtue-signaling. I’m seeing it all over Twitter and Facebook, too. People who have clearly not seen the film, but can describe it FAR better than you and I somehow. It’s crazy, but it’s their loss. I just hate to see quality work go unrewarded, and this film is quality work.
I even dropped Gosling a note on Twitter to thank him for doing this movie. I thought he was fantastic, and it probably never would’ve been made if he and Chazelle hadn’t decided to join the team.
I’m going to see it again. I’ve been going to the movies with a friend. We started last month. Let see, she had never seen Smokey and the Bandit. It was playing in honor of Burt. Of course, the movie with today’s standards was lame.
Then we went to see A Star Is Born. Both of us liked Lady Gaga, but what a downer movie. No one would ever see this a second time. Plus 2 hours and 15 minutes of a stupid story. A Star Is Born is a vehicle for a female singer, that ordinarily 1/2 the public would not know about, ie Judy Garland, and Barbar Streisand.
Anyway, thanks to the posting here, I went to see the movie MYSELF and loved it. I mean, I loved it.... and can’t wait to see it again with my friend.
We have some great people on this forum, but we have some out right stubborn ones, who will not admit they’re wrong, or even check something out.
But in all fairness, you must admit... the PR on this was terrible. Gosling should have kept his mouth shut. The flag is shown on the moon, and Armstrong salutes it...It’s plain as day. They decided NOT to show him hammering the flag into the ground. I think in retrospect Speilberg should have.
But there were a lot of things cut out of the movie. I mean 90 minutes to show the entire Pre Gemini, Gemini and Apollo missions?
Just came from seeing “First Man” on the super-duper senior matinee rate. Glad I did it then, so I can’t whine quite as much about the price.
As others have noted here, what they presented was historically accurate, but left out large pieces of the narrative that would have better explained things. For instance, no mention was given to the Gemini 8 docking problem, nor the fact that, after the Apollo test flight burned up, why it happened and that a redesign was required, which backed things up some.
As to Armstrong himself, it would have been nice to mention that he was a Naval pilot in the Korean War, or all the things he did AFTER Apollo 11. If you didn’t know better, you’d think he appeared in NASA in 1961 and did nothing after the moon flight. And even the moon flight seemed like a Kubrickian fantasy. It was “one small step...”, mourning his dead child, then blast off from the moon.
One more thing about the “global” effort and affect of the moon landing. Earlier in the movie, when the USSR beat us into space, beat us to the first EVA and a few other space firsts, there was a pronounced notation of the “Space Race” between the two countries. Yet, when the US pounded the USSR on the most important race, no kudos to NASA and the American spirit that had done it. Well, save for a replay of the JFK speech from the early 1960s, and that was shown on TV while the Apollo 11 team were in isolation after their return!
All in all, I could have waited for it to show up on cable and watch it on my big screen TV. The visuals would be close and the audio would have been, too.
The PR was bad, but mostly due to screeching overreaction. They said they didn’t show the flag planting scene. Then Chazelle clarified and said that the flag was there. That told me that they put it there (since it really was there), they just didn’t film an explicit scene of them planting it.
Not having seen the film, I didn’t know if that was a good choice or a bad choice or a necessary or unnecessary one, so I figured I’d check it out and make up my own mind. Oh, man, is THAT the wrong answer, apparently. I saw people all over social media immediately jumping to the conclusion that the flag was completely deleted and wouldn’t be seen at all. Amazingly, people are STILL saying that—people who haven’t even seen it. It boggles my mind.
As I said in my review, they could’ve had a real quick shot of Armstrong and Aldrin unfolding the flag or whatever during the short montage scene after they leave the LEM, but it didn’t ruin the film or turn it into some kind of anti-Amerian travesty by default. The notion that it did—made by people who haven’t even seen the film—is, frankly, insulting.
I don’t like being told what to think, I don’t care if it’s a liberal trying to do it or if it’s a conservative. I’ll make up my own mind, thanks very much, and this is one of those cases where I’m very glad I did.
The film is about Neil Armstrong joining NASA and his time there leading up to the Apollo 11 landing. Everything else you mention as a detriment is superfluous. Who wants to go see a movie about Neil Armstrong and have everything grind to a halt for technical explanations about Gemini docking problems and 100% oxygen environments and the flammability of Velcro?
Armstrong and Aldrin were on the Moon for 2.5 hours. You wanted them to show every minute of that? “Oh he mourned the dead child...” Yes, that was the emotional core of the entire film, so it was very important to show, and I thought it was heartbreaking and beautiful.
The film made it very clear we were racing against the Soviets, and we were losing. After Apollo 11, the world was in celebration of the U.S. beating the Soviets. What more did you want?
Excellent points. How about the hundred flags that everyone was waving in Mission Control:
In summary, I think the film willingly limited the American flag in the film. They did this for the international audience. In hindsite I think they should have included the flag ceremony on the moon as it’s still there. Maybe they can in the DVD version of movie. All in all a very pro American film!!
So just saw this film tonight as a guest of a friend.
Summary: I loved the movie. It was a study of a man (men) who was (were) brave in the face of the unknown (space exploration).
It was exciting on the level of “Apollo 13”, yet more a study of an individual’s (Neil Armstrong’s) experience in the space program of the 1960s.
It was suspenseful and dramatic, and in that sense fulfilled all of the prerequisites for entertainment. Ryan Gosling did a great job not being Ryan Gosling, making you feel that he was someone else (Neil Armstrong).
There was drama and intrigue and bravery making this great for the big screen.
It’s all done well, but at the point where we all know the denouement begins, “One small step for man...” I seriously wondered where the flag was? It was missing. But then I remembered the controversy surrounding this movie and the flag. However, what followed in the movie was a great, IMO, tribute to the US regarding our contribution to space exploration.
I told my husband he had to see this movie on the big screen. It’s one of those big action films that can’t be replicated at home. Seriously, the flag controversy is a non-issue. Take it from someone who notices these things.
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