Quora query, Why do you and your religious principles support and defend President Trump?

Free Republic | Sun, 10/14/18 | daniel1212

[daniel1212]

So I would vote for Trump even if I were a Jew, Muslim, Ba'hai or any other brand of religion who opposed a de facto state church. Or, for that matter, even a liberal who valued the First Amendment.

But not the First Amendment as interpreted by the likes of the ACLU.

[daniel1212]

Have they ever read The Lord’s Prayer? Have they noticed that line in which we ask God for forgiveness of our sins and what immediately follows? And as a kicker, are they freely able to throw the first stone? I know I’m not.

It seems about the only verse many liberal know is "Judge not," which is misinterpreted apart from its context to mean not condemning sin (versus hypocritical judging), but which is the very thing they engage in by condemning judging as sin!

[Carl Vehse]

A Christian mocks the Ten Commandments by voting for an anti-Christian, lying, murdering, traitorous Demonicrat.

[MIA_eccl1212]

they don’t understand the difference between confession of transgressions with repentance...

versus their own unrepentant ongoing murder, lying, adultery, god hating and rebellion... which is what they ALL ARE... up to and until they repent.

I John 1:9 says “if we confess... he will forgive all”
it does not say, “if we refuse to admit our sins, and persist in them with hatred and rebellion... that’s okay too...”

Various Christian groups, even cultic leaning ones... all admit they are sinners in need of forgiveness, grace and redemption.
These folks trying to hold DJT to what they perceive as our “standards” REFUSE to get it. He admits he was a moral screw up and has made efforts to repent and confess.

Whereas, they ARE practicing, ongoing and unrepentant sinners in rebellion against Holy God. There IS no forgiveness without some form of accounting through, confession, repentance, turning around and keeping after that as a pattern for the rest of ones life... Whether in a confessional chamber or in the prayer closet... ALL who know Christ are driven to our knees over such things. All who don’t get that... do NOT know Christ. at all.

Those who do not repent. ARE NOT christian OR saved. All Christians repent at some level, because they are compelled to do so by the Holy Spirit... if they have no conviction by the Holy Spirit then they are by definition, NONE of his... and in a state of rebellion against the GRACE which leads to repentance.

Self damning and demonically deluded. ONLY God can turn them around. Or a war that wipes them out.

[reasonisfaith]

Because God put him in the White House.

[melsec]

If I was from your great country I would be saying “Because I am voting for someone who wants to be President, not someone who wants to be God”

[keats5]

The very first commandment is to love God above anything, and to do so we need freedom of religion, which this President supports. Once we are free to openly follow this commandment, our whole society becomes healthier. The opposite is true, too.

God’s plan for marriage and family is the building block of any successful civilization- and it begins when a man and a woman commit to a lifelong marriage. Trump is against governmental policies that encourage single parent families or deny biological truths that will eventually destroy families and weakens our society as a whole.

Likewise, Trump is pro-life. Our country cannot thrive without a positive population growth.

Our God is also a God of justice and order. He expects us to obey reasonable governmental authority per Romans 13. We are not being kind to illegal immigrants when we ignore their illegal status. In fact, we are encouraging them to break the law and to live in fear. We support forcing Congress to create laws that represent the wishes of the people, keep our country safe, and support our executive branch when they enforce those laws. If the people really do want increased immigration, that should be taken up in Congress so that we can have more legal immigrants come into our country without fear for their futures or their children.

We are to care for the poor and oppressed, and that means to love them in a way that is the very best for them, not to manipulate them and oppress them for political purposes. To this end, we are against the welfare state and support Trump’s policies that favor job growth, training, opportunities for ex-convicts, education, and family cohesion.

[theBuckwheat]

When Progressives show interest in any issue, or advocates for any solutions they do so far more to advance their agenda than to address the immediate issue. If they show concern, it always has a strong possibility that any answer that is given will be turned into an advantage for their agenda.

The issue remains: Progressives gave us the (D) side of the 2016 campaign for President. Hillary was running the largest scheme of graft and influence peddling in all of human history, at least as measured by how much money was involved. For this reason alone, she was the most corrupt candidate for President in the history of the country.

How could I have possibly voted for her? What does this say for the people who were willing to overlook this ongoing crime and vote for her anyway?

Trump has many failings, but nothing he has done comes anywhere near this single crime. Then there is the Uranium One deal, and the Benghazi debacle. And the private email server.

[hinckley buzzard]

The question is dishonest to begin with because it is based on a false premise. The question as phrased implies that religious faith requires evaluation of personal character as a primary attribute in picking a leader. Nothing could be more misdirected. A Christian knows that all persons are sinners and without merit in God’s eyes. Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Howdy-Doody— all equally fallen in the eyes of God. So following St Paul’s doctrine of the two kingdoms, Christians are required only to choose the leader they believe will do the best job of leading them. And that’s why we chose Trump. Best candidate available.

[Nifster]

meh

Look at the results

[thoughtomator]

He’s the only available alternative to the openly Satanic two-party system.

[Linda Frances]

“All authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God”
Romans 13:1

God seen that we needed a street fight; someone who was tough skinned and doesn’t give in or up. The left is shocked and angry that we elected someone who doesn’t care what anyone thinks, but only cares about doing what he promised.

[KDF48]

Romans 13.

[daniel1212]

The question is dishonest to begin with because it is based on a false premise. The question as phrased implies that religious faith requires evaluation of personal character as a primary attribute in picking a leader. Nothing could be more misdirected. A Christian knows that all persons are sinners and without merit in God’s eyes. Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Howdy-Doody— all equally fallen in the eyes of God. So following St Paul’s doctrine of the two kingdoms, Christians are required only to choose the leader they believe will do the best job of leading them. And that’s why we chose Trump. Best candidate available.

And thus what i mainly described was the manner of policies on the socialist "ship," versus the overall moral character of the "captain."

[Gargantua]

According to the Bible, God sometimes reveals His Will to people through His use of Prophets. A 2011 Trump Prophecy reveals that Trump was lifted up to "...prepare The Flock for the coming Harvest...", to be God's Hand on Earth. The 2011 Prophecy also states that ..."all who rise up against him, God will personally remove as a threat."

So far, The Prophecy has been right 100% of the time. That is why I support Trump as a fundamentalist Christian. That, and the laying on of hands in the oval office with a few dozen pastors, and I was all in.

[Elsie]

We either accept weaknesses in good people or we have to tear pages out of the Bible.

Robert Duvall

[daniel1212]

According to the Bible, God sometimes reveals His Will to people through His use of Prophets. A 2011 Trump Prophecy reveals that Trump was lifted up to "...prepare The Flock for the coming Harvest...", to be God's Hand on Earth. The 2011 Prophecy also states that ..."all who rise up against him, God will personally remove as a threat." So far, The Prophecy has been right 100% of the time. That is why I support Trump as a fundamentalist Christian. That, and the laying on of hands in the oval office with a few dozen pastors, and I was all in.

So-called Prophecies of revival are a dime a dozen, but we are far from paying the cost, or wanting to, while rather than all who rise up against Trump being removed as a threat, their number has only increased as he acts as the most conservative president since Reagan, while also giving enemies too much ammunition by some of what he says.

[Elsie]

Yanick Rochon, born Latter-day Saint, converted a few years ago

Answered Oct 10, 2018 · Author has 666 answers and 161.9k answer views

Religion has nothing to do with politics, and Latter-day Saints are a prime example of it; unless otherwise, there are just as many democrats as there are republicans[1][2].

[Elsie]

... Latter-day Saints are a prime example of it...

[Elsie]

Those who do not learn from history...

 

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

November 8, 2012

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!

 

I must apologize and ask for forgiveness from you all.

 

As you know, we at Headquarters NEVER tell you pew warmers how to vote. It says so right in our press releases. Anyway, we were ALL thrilled to the max when there were two – TWO! – MORMONs being touted in the primaries: Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman.

 

Talk in our upper chambers high above SLC was how our gods were favoring us with these men; who had prepared their entire lives for an opportunity to save this Nation; which so badly needs guidance: OUR guidance even! So naturally, I and the other twelve analyzed and discussed the situation.

 

Consensus was that the voters should listen to the inner urging and vote for the one they wanted; but that seemed to be leaving WAY too much to chance.

 

I decided, that since I am the ONLY man on earth that can hear GOD’s voice, that I would pray for wisdom and clarity in the matter.

 

I hadn’t used the fleece in a while, so I questioned GOD with a test. A paper, with Romney on one side and Huntsman on the other was to be placed by the air conditioning vent high above my desk in the sumptuous office the Full Tithers have provided.

When the air would kick in later in the evening, while I was home, the paper would be blown down and whomever GOD wanted would then be visible on the upper surface.

 

As you can probably guess, when I came in the next day, the paper had landed on my desk, with Mitt’s name on top.

Last night, I was staying late, praying to GOD about how it was even possible that Mitt lost, when the janitorial cleaning crew came in. Being surprised to find me here, they apologized for interrupting me. I said to them, “It mattereth not, as I was about to leave anyway.”

 

As I was going out the door, the foreman of the crew just happened to mention that my office is ALWAYS so neat and tidy, never anything out of place, that they barely have to do anything to clean up. Then one of the sweepers said, “Except that time in the spring when we came in to clean and found a paper with Huntman’s name on the floor by your desk. We put it back on your desk and left.

 

 

Tommy M.

 

Onward to 2016!!!

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