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What Is Government Supposed To Do?
11/28/2018 | MosesKnows

Posted on 11/28/2018 1:37:37 PM PST by MosesKnows

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To: papertyger

I said “if”. Maybe I misunderstood your point in #15. What exactly is it?


21 posted on 11/28/2018 3:19:05 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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My point is social credit marginalizes people from public life without any laws being broken, either by the marginalized or the marginalizing.

There is no precedent for this state of affairs in the Constitution, but surely the government must assume authority to curtail the practice or the nation will be destroyed by its own citizens.


22 posted on 11/28/2018 3:46:53 PM PST by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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If there's no law against it, then there is nothing the government should do about it. It's either that, or welcome to the slippery slope. It's not a perfect world.

It's like I say to the gun control people. What's better, a public without guns, or government having all the guns? Of course, those types will usually choose the latter, but they apparently don't know what government is capable of. A few wrongful deaths per year by private gun owners is better than a lot of them by an out of control government.

"At best, government is a necessary evil. A worst, an intolerable one".
23 posted on 11/28/2018 4:49:30 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: papertyger

A public with guns, I mean.


24 posted on 11/28/2018 4:51:04 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: MosesKnows

Only that which we cannot do for ourselves.

And then, only that which we, the people, have given it permission to do as written in our Constitution.


25 posted on 11/28/2018 5:00:49 PM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
If there's no law against it, then there is nothing the government should do about it. It's either that, or welcome to the slippery slope. It's not a perfect world.

But there IS a law against your prescribed remedy. So your choices are expand government authority to regulate things like Facebook, Twitter, and other weaponized "social" mechanism, or ignore the law and bring your own judgement (and punishment) against those who have committed no, as yet, legally codified crime.

You can't have it both ways, because as you say, it's not a perfect world.

26 posted on 11/28/2018 7:21:03 PM PST by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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Actually you’re the one who said “the government must assume authority to curtail the practice” where no laws have been broken (see #22). I’m just saying if the government needs to stop a particular practice, there should be a law against it. Otherwise, what checks are there to ensure the government won’t stop you from doing that is legally your right to do?


27 posted on 11/28/2018 8:25:55 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Otherwise, what checks are there to ensure the government won’t stop you from doing that is legally your right to do?

Are you actually advocating a social credit system imposed on citizens by de facto ideological cartels with no possible redress for those citizens if that redress comes from government?

28 posted on 11/28/2018 9:17:04 PM PST by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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I’m not advocating a social credit system at all. But I wouldn’t grant a “redress” of grievances where no law has been broken. If there needs to be a law, then make one. Legislators can do that.


29 posted on 11/28/2018 9:29:18 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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