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Why Are So Many SJW Characters Mary Sues? (Good to Understand Upcoming Movies)
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Posted on 02/14/2019 10:37:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory

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To: longtermmemmory

Mary Sues dont have to earn anything. Everything has been given to them. Sounds like a leftist fantasy to me.


41 posted on 02/14/2019 12:21:01 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: dangus

I was willing to give Rey a pass, as far as her being a MS, until Last Jedi came out. The reveal of her parents being nobody sealed it. At least in TFA there was the thought that she was of a powerful lineage and it could explain some of it. The flying (see Anakin and pod racing), the fighting (Ren was severally imjured) had at least the potential to be explained.

Last Jedi she did zip training and became a Ninja Master. No hardship. No carrying Yoda around a swamp. Just magically powerful.


42 posted on 02/14/2019 12:23:42 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Black Panther’s success was organic. It was not imposed. It had an actual general public fan base. It was a success despite the PR. If anything the paid PR staff was essentially doing a 21st century pr campaign of a 1970’s blacksploitation film. It was a planned one off movie, after the success, the character’s role was expanded in endgame and a sequel recently announced.

Captain Marvel (aka Captain Woke) is a pure SJW power play to exclude previous marvel characters so SJW Mary Sue (perfect characters) can push the propaganda war.

(see also commercials and tv that insults men and fathers)

If people just stay away the first weekend or just wait to see it free, or at home it will hurt those whose job was to make this dreck.


43 posted on 02/14/2019 12:31:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Pre Disney Marvel rebooted the Character several times. It was actually MS. Marvel. Disney I believe stuck the captain marvel moniker. The character never sold or had any substantive following (Guardians always had a bit of a following)

I would rather see Shazam.

They might as well put the Gillete commercial before the movie or put a sign in the theater that says men not welcome.


44 posted on 02/14/2019 12:34:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr. Blond

ah but she is rumored to give up all her super white privilege powers to a black woman! (/s)


45 posted on 02/14/2019 12:35:50 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Yes! He only did as well as he did on Bespin because pop was there to recruit.

And maybe it’s looking for something to complain about, but when General Women’s Studies’s brilliant plan reduced the Resistance to a literal handful and Finn was going to what could have been his death, it’s a little off-putting when Rey is grinning ear to ear because she’s manning a gun turret. Read the room, Rey.


46 posted on 02/14/2019 12:54:47 PM PST by Rastus
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To: z3n

And thus, the rise of what Richard C. Meyer calls the “Gordon Goodbrother” character—a soft, harmless, milquetoast black guy who can do no wrong, never gets angry, and is always there to lend a helping hand, gosh darn it.


47 posted on 02/14/2019 12:59:14 PM PST by Rastus
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To: RinaseaofDs
In the D.C. Version, the Big Red Cheese is definitely a male, but is called SHAZAM, very likely to avoid problems with Disney 's legal department.
48 posted on 02/14/2019 3:33:27 PM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: longtermmemmory

>> It is also important to remember the movie PR machine is now out in full force with puff pieces pointing out how this is the first woman superhero lead in a movie. (wonder woman?).

Supergirl, 1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXbvzOdj-Q


49 posted on 02/14/2019 3:50:45 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Sure. Put every f***ing television network hyping it, and it can generate enough publicity through "herd" mentality, to do well.

I watched a non ending hypefest regarding black panther. I saw the movie. Thought it sucked. Liked the Black Panther character in Marvels' "Civil War". He was fast, smart, ruthless and deadly.

In "Black Panther", most advanced nation on earth chooses it's leader by mortal combat? The lead was always getting upstaged by the Female Amazon Warrior?

All sorts of stuff wrong with it, but a massive Hollywood and New York network system hype campaign made it successful by putting out the message that not seeing it is racist or something.

If they had had to pay for the publicity they got for free, that lemon would have been a big money loser.

50 posted on 02/14/2019 3:51:04 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: pepsi_junkie

>>In “Empire Strikes Back” Luke was impatient, arrogant, and reckless and the only reason he survived his encounter with Darth Vader was because Vader was playing with him like a cat might toy with a mouse. And then only because of who Luke was. If he was some random dude he’d have been smoked in 5 seconds.

Didn’t Darth Vader want Luke to JOIN him? It wasn’t “simply” because they were related...


https://www.techly.com.au/2016/03/31/darth-vader-never-said-luke-i-am-your-father-in-star-wars/

Darth Vader: There is no escape! Don’t make me destroy you. Luke, you do not yet realize your importance. You’ve only begun to discover your power! Join me, and I will complete your training! With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy.
Luke Skywalker: [angrily] I’ll never join you!
Vader: If only you knew the power of the Dark Side. Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Vader: No, I am your father.
Luke: [shocked] No. No! That’s not true! That’s impossible!
Vader: Search your feelings; you know it to be true!
Luke: NOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!


51 posted on 02/14/2019 3:56:33 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: DiogenesLamp
In "Black Panther", most advanced nation on earth chooses it's leader by mortal combat?

There's nothing funnier than someone who goes to a super hero movie, then complains that their suspension of disbelief was ruined by one plot point thing. Well, maybe someone who talks about how the marketing campaign for a movie was obnoxious, then admits that they saw the movie, too.

52 posted on 02/14/2019 4:08:57 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: a fool in paradise
He wanted Luke to join him because he was Luke's father. That mattered.
53 posted on 02/14/2019 4:36:32 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: thoughtomator
I guess whoever keeps buying the tickets does. Seems just as stupid to me as it does to you, but the money to fund this stuff is coming from somewhere.

There was a backlash after 'The Last Jedi'. The next movie was a Han Solo movie that, by all accounts, was actually pretty good. And featured a fan favorite character. But because the fans were so irritated with 'The Last Jedi' and the "piss off if you don't like it" reaction of the creators, they skipped Solo. Star Wars has been in crisis ever since, movies getting caneled, etc.

54 posted on 02/14/2019 4:38:53 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: Cecily
Funny how all the SJW actresses and big talkers out in Hollyweird can’t seem to keep Harvey Weinstein and others of his ilk from raping them or coercing sex from them for acting jobs. They only talk when they are older and the career is over or on the wane. Not too powerful in reality, are they?

Well, I can't criticize women for not being able to prevent rape. However, if they get a great job afterwards from the alleged rapist and give speeches praising the alleged rapist a a great humanitarian and friend (as several did) and are photographed socializing with their alleged rapist then I think "maybe it wasn't rape after all, maybe they just want to use this current metoo situation to cleanse themselves of the stigma of using the casting couch to their benefit". Maybe. It's certainly a question, isn't it?

55 posted on 02/14/2019 4:45:40 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: pepsi_junkie

Before the Force was in everyone, Luke was the power


56 posted on 02/14/2019 5:03:26 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: pepsi_junkie

> The next movie was a Han Solo movie that, by all accounts, was actually pretty good.

It was stuffed with SJW garbage, by all reports. The failure of this movie started at the moment they announced Lando was “pansexual”, confirming the fears of everyone who was afraid that radical feminists and homosexuals had taken over and were turning it into Communist propaganda.

This was typical of what I heard about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUa90qh0VE


57 posted on 02/14/2019 5:04:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: longtermmemmory

The young woman who wrote that Star Trek short story (with Mary Sue) in the early 1970s was prescient.


58 posted on 02/14/2019 6:03:06 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: fishtank

So fitting that it started with Star Trek fan fiction (a female fan, as I recall), since Wes-God (as I called him before I came across Mary/Marty Sue/Stu) was nauseatingly superiors to all the mere adults with actual training and experience.


59 posted on 02/14/2019 6:09:00 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Rastus

Yes. Phase 4 - whatever they call it - is where I plan to exit.


60 posted on 02/14/2019 6:10:58 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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