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230,000 Died in a Dam Collapse That China Kept Secret for Years
MSN ^ | February 17, 2019 | Justin Higginbottom

Posted on 02/18/2019 9:23:42 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: PGR88

I read about that several months ago. They called them Eurasian Tree Sparrows but I don’t think they’re any different than our English or House Sparrows which are a pest......and I take great pleasure in shooting them in my backyard under my bird feeder any chance I get.


21 posted on 02/18/2019 10:29:05 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: PGR88

I got a lesson on the “four pests”while working in China. And I thought it was the insane air pollution that was responsible for no birds.


22 posted on 02/18/2019 10:31:28 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I remember that! They had films of them shooting every bird they saw.


23 posted on 02/18/2019 10:35:52 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: BitWielder1

There is NO bad news. You would be wise to remember that comrade.


24 posted on 02/18/2019 10:44:46 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: EveningStar

Clearly it was Trump’s fault!


25 posted on 02/18/2019 10:54:21 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: MNDude

Was it on purpose?

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No. But the current danger is that China is getting into international dam building and with it’s past practices of bad news suppression and denial of responsibility, has learned nothing from past failures. This is beginning to show as true by current failures in Chinese dam projects in Southeast Asia.


26 posted on 02/18/2019 10:55:57 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: EveningStar

So...a typhoon came ashore and was blocked in place for three days by a pressure ridge, dumping a years worth of rain while it was stalled.

Sound familiar?


27 posted on 02/18/2019 10:59:42 AM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: EveningStar

a stalled typhoon.... one year’s rain in just a few days


28 posted on 02/18/2019 11:01:40 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: MNDude

Typhoon.


29 posted on 02/18/2019 11:02:48 AM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: rlmorel
I50 million could also be very low as there were no records kept in the country side where a lot of the murder/starvation/epidemics took place. Most place the number from 1923-1987 at 76,702,000. Good to know also is that Murder by Socialism is still alive and well, but has moved into removal of body organs before death ...
30 posted on 02/18/2019 11:10:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BitWielder1

That’s why life in communist countries can appear so idyllic, bad news of any kind is suppressed by the state.


Most crime is suppressed by the liberal application of the death penalty.


31 posted on 02/18/2019 11:12:40 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 2banana

Everyone thinks good engineering is expensive.

Bad engineering is even more expensive...


In China, bad engineering is just embarrassing and a loss of face - possibly the death penalty for the screw ups who embarrassed the Party leaders.


32 posted on 02/18/2019 11:14:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

What’s a million Chinese?

See you and raise you 100 million Chinese ...


33 posted on 02/18/2019 11:16:24 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That is a typical leftist thought process. Their history all over the world is full of these “unexpected” ramifications.

They are supposed to be the smartest people in the room, but when they conduct warfare in a way contrary to the way warfighters suggest it, or run an economy contrary to the fundamental principles of economics, or manage a wildlife system by trying to rig so they get a result, they are continually presented with lost wars, failed economies, and ecological disasters.

And they always shrug their shoulders, exclaim “This was unexpected!” and instantly forget the lesson they should have learned.

Next time a war comes around, an economic decision is to be made, or a pest control problem is encountered, when Leftists are in charge, you can be damn sure there will be bad outcomes that were “unexpected”.

Damn, how I despise Leftism and Leftists.


34 posted on 02/18/2019 11:24:52 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: PIF

I agree. When arguing points about death tolls with Leftists, I often go with the lower estimates just to avoid wasting time on “You’re wrong! They didn’t murder 150 million, it was only 40 million!”

What was that quote widely attributed to Stalin: :The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.”

They endeavor to keep things as “statistics”.


35 posted on 02/18/2019 11:28:16 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: EveningStar
Thanks EveningStar. Sounds like the worst Chinese disaster by a dam site.

36 posted on 02/18/2019 11:48:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: rlmorel

What was that quote widely attributed to Stalin: :The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.”


In China, a million is a rounding error ...


37 posted on 02/18/2019 12:06:27 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mewzilla

Thank you for that link. I think I’m going to enjoy the web site. First one that caught my eye was what I hope is a refresher on bolt design.


38 posted on 02/18/2019 12:16:15 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: EveningStar

I do remember the World Almamac listing the disaster as ‘flooding’ in that time period, along with at least 250,000 deaths (I don’t remember the exact number), so the huge disaster was known about...but, no, I don’t remember anything about dam bursts, but no surprise either, back then.


39 posted on 02/18/2019 1:56:26 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: PIF
On a lighter note, check out this sketch (about three minutes) by Dana Carvey, portraying both the interpreter and a Chinese person in his comedy routine Straight White Male"

"I live in a village of 290 million people..."

40 posted on 02/18/2019 2:22:08 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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