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Workism Is Making Americans Miserable
The Atlantic ^ | Feb 24, 2019 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 02/25/2019 6:28:14 PM PST by daniel1212

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To: daniel1212

“The Green New Deal will require the “rich” to support those unwilling to live as slaves (workism)

and I’m the boss”

AOC


61 posted on 02/25/2019 11:26:52 PM PST by Hypo2
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To: daniel1212

“I think there is more to it, and it does have something to do with the job being the attempted fulfillment for an empty soul, who usually has few if any children.”

I understand what you’re describing, but in my experience those types are determined not to just work away all day - they really put in the minimal amount of time required and spend their money on nice trips and such (which is their right; I understand it). I work with far more childless women than men, and something hits them at a certain point (probably when they realize they’ll never have children) and they lose a lot of enthusiasm for the job. Besides the clichés about pets, they really resent their female coworkers with children and grandchildren; the two groups drift apart, and oddly enough it seems those with families work harder (probably because they need the job more).


62 posted on 02/26/2019 3:31:06 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: posterchild
Since I am unlikely to ever be ‘successful’(I’m too ‘old’)) I’d rather spend my efforts taking care of my children so they may become reverent and ‘successful.’

"Real "success" is knowing God, being saved thru wholehearted repentant faith in the risen Lord Jesus, shown by baptism, (Ps. 34:18; Acts 2:38; 8:36,37; 10:43-47; 16:30-33) being spiritually born of God (Acts 15:7-9; Ephesians 1:13; Titus 3:5) and made accepted in the Beloved (Ephesians 1:6) on His account, by His sinless shed blood, (Romans 3:25; 4:5) and spiritually seated with Him in Heaven, (Ephesians 2:6) with whom the faithful will go to forever be with at death or His return. (1 Thess. 4:17) And which faith means following Him, (Acts 10:47) - and repentant confession when you realize you have not (2 Samuel 12:13) - in surrender and consecration to your Lord, (Acts 11:23; Romans 12:1) according to the truth you know and grace received, (Deuteronomy 16:17; Luke 12:42-48) to show His love and Truth to the world, making a positive difference for time and eternity, temporarily and spiritually, in the hearts and lives of those you encounter and others who can influence.

Now for me to just consistently live up to this, but God is an "equal opportunity employer," as all can serve Him somehow, and will be rewarded according to the level of grace given, and what they did with it. (1 Corinthians 3:8; 2 Corinthians 8:12)

63 posted on 02/26/2019 5:18:50 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: kearnyirish2
Besides the clichés about pets,

Forgot to mention pets, which are much the yuppy substituted for kids, not as a supplement to them. .

they really resent their female coworkers with children and grandchildren; the two groups drift apart, and oddly enough it seems those with families work harder (probably because they need the job more).

I live in a populous small city of mostly working Latinos, and who almost always have kids. Well, the newer city leaders let two large old factory buildings get rehabbed in the neighborhood we used to live in, and turned into condos. It got filled it up with yuppies, and the contrast was stark.

I saw zero children from there in the years we were in that neighborhood even though there was a park right next store. And zero interaction with the neighborhood (and with whom I had much interaction, by the grace of God, despite the language barrier) But pets! This is what they had, and the only yard was a lawn in back that was used for the dogs. Great fertilizer.

64 posted on 02/26/2019 5:36:51 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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In my town here in NJ (once Scots and Irish, now primarily Hispanic) we got our first “bark park” a couple of years ago; now the ageing childless Americans take their dogs there while a mile south the young foreigners fill the athletic fields.


65 posted on 02/26/2019 5:41:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: daniel1212

I agree with that. I put ‘successful’ in quotes as I was using it only in a narrow career sense.


66 posted on 02/26/2019 6:30:38 AM PST by posterchild
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To: posterchild
I agree with that. I put ‘successful’ in quotes as I was using it only in a narrow career sense.

I pretty much assumed that, but thank God you know what real ‘success’ is.

67 posted on 02/26/2019 7:42:27 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Fungi
Pure unadulterated crap.

Which is how you know it will get turned into government policy as soon as the Democrats are back in charge again.


68 posted on 02/26/2019 8:07:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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As workers become more productive, they can either maintain their old standard of living with less hours, or a higher standard of living by keeping hours the same. Most people choose the latter.

We also have the phenomenon of private sector’s increased productivity being stolen by government through taxes, to support an ever increasing community of non-workers.


69 posted on 02/26/2019 8:12:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: kearnyirish2
In my town here in NJ (once Scots and Irish, now primarily Hispanic) we got our first “bark park” a couple of years ago; now the ageing childless Americans take their dogs there while a mile south the young foreigners fill the athletic fields.

The PiIl and abortion. I am Scot and Irish, and am a minority among Latinos, mostly working Central Americans, who as regards being friendly, pro-faith and loving children, are more traditional American than the Millennials (Puerto Ricans are the loudest partiers). Yet I am sure that most use some sort of welfare, plus many have "home businesses" such as child care and selling meals, which income I doubt is reported. And though most they do not speak of politics and do work, I can tell they see the Democrats as their saviors.

Republicans never seemed to be interested in trying to educate them as to what the long-term consequences of this will be.

But for us they have been a much better community than liberal suburbanites with their liberal political signs, and who even have fights over leaf blower noise, and hardly crack a smile, and get offended or even antagonistic at being graciously offered a gospel tract in public (as rare as that is done).

70 posted on 02/26/2019 8:33:52 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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My town is overrun with primarily Peruvians, and while some are good workers others just game the system; the biggest “freebie” is public education, for which American homeowners pay massive costs (the Peruvians don’t buy homes, and many are illegals). Not only do they avoid the whole property/school tax issue often by renting illegal apartments, they also save up to skedaddle when they’ve made their money - so the future pension costs of gubmint workers are irrelevant to them.


71 posted on 02/26/2019 10:23:40 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
My town is overrun with primarily Peruvians, and while some are good workers others just game the system; the biggest “freebie” is public education, for which American homeowners pay massive costs (the Peruvians don’t buy homes, and many are illegals). Not only do they avoid the whole property/school tax issue often by renting illegal apartments, they also save up to skedaddle when they’ve made their money - so the future pension costs of gubmint workers are irrelevant to them

Here the price for a low-rest 3 bedroom is close to 2k a month, plus heat and lectric, and which rent does indirectly pay prop. taxes, as do those who have legal jobs, but the money sent home is "foreign aid." .

72 posted on 02/26/2019 10:35:15 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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No questions tenants indirectly pay property taxes, but when the apartment itself is an illegal conversion there is $0 being collected on it.

After 9/11 look at how we had to eat that sh!t sandwich called the “Patriot Act” which destroyed our privacy and made international money transfers a pain for Americans - and look at how banks and our own government bend over backwards to let these foreigners send money internationally. The gripes of many on this forum are due to the fact that as “normals” we have to obey laws or there are consequences. People who cheat welfare, ignore immigration laws, fabricate hate crimes - they all get a pass.


73 posted on 02/26/2019 10:52:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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