Posted on 09/11/2019 7:39:56 PM PDT by dayglored
I have “updates” TURNED OFF but something just freaking updated.
OMG I detest this thing.
I wish my good, sane Win7 Ultra laptop had not gone toes up
HATE 10.
I’m still with XP for many things. It just purrs along.
They will continue to do this as they want to “close the marketing loop” for their ad customers.
When you search a product at work and then switch to your mobile and look through the site on the way home and then purchase that product from your home pc... they want to be able to track that.
I did too for a long time, then I started getting the “not compatible with Windows XP OS” messages from stuff. Win 7 served me well but it is about to be done for and start getting these same messages from stuff. Now this mint has answered all the questions with the ease of XP or Win7. Best thing I ever did and I will never look back again.
The huge difference is peace of mind. Everything going forward with MS gets more negative by the day, everything Linux is a positive direction. And the more who use it, the more positive and practical it will get. As it is now, it is already superior to all microsoft operating systems and getting better.
Bump to every word you wrote.
People say to me, “You’ve turned off updates?” Yes I have. Haven’t loaded update one to my Win 7 x64 machine. People say to me, “But, but aren’t you afraid of viruses and malware?” No, I’m not. I’ve got excellent anti-virus and anti-malware software and I’m very careful about where I go on the Internet. Emails I get from unknown sources or email I’m not expecting are deleted without opening.
It’s a joy to compute without M$FT getting in the way.
No offense, but that is like putting lipstick on a pig. :)
Seriously... Make your life easier and have peace of mind. Highly suggest the Cinnamon, it functions the same as Win 7.
If you would like to try it out and need a hand PM me and I would be privileged to help. I have all the details. You can test it out without actually installing it yet.
Thank you for verifying that.
So in other words (correct me if I am wrong), with Windows 10 there is no such thing as an “air gapped” computer where one can securely work on private projects, such as a not-yet patented project.
With this required need to go on the internet someone could install a hidden program beyond the reach of McAffee and the like. This hidden app could gather information, then download it to the spyers when the required need arises to go online. In other words, delayed spying can easily occur.
There’s a reason W10 was free. It’s just a huge pitcher of Koolaid many just cannot get enough of. Add to this the sheer lunacy of zero privacy on social networking such as Farcebook and the mindless placing of information on a cloud system, and such people are literally an open book.
LOL!!
Nope, it phones home with the offline usage locally collected data to MS every time you get on the net with it. But MS has been doing this all along, even with Win 7. But at least you could work offline with most stuff.
“With this required need to go on the internet someone could install a hidden program beyond the reach of McAffee and the like. This hidden app could gather information, then download it to the spyers when the required need arises to go online. In other words, delayed spying can easily occur.”
Absolutely. And the first persistent error warning you get when booting up Win 10 is “you are not connected to the internet” and it wants to make you connect to function properly. Most apps won’t even work unless you connect to the internet even though they don’t actually need the internet. It’s basically a fancy tablet that depends on online apps.
I can already tell you are going to hate it when you are finally forced to go it soon. Your concerns are the exact same as mine were and why I went to linux instead. I used my daughter’s new computer a few years back with Win 10 just one time and immediately make the decision that it was never going to happen on any of mine and I wasn’t going to support the arrogance. Used it many times since on other folks computers and each time I shut the lid absolutely fuming and ready to throw it against a wall.
“There’s a reason W10 was free. It’s just a huge pitcher of Koolaid many just cannot get enough of. Add to this the sheer lunacy of zero privacy on social networking such as Farcebook and the mindless placing of information on a cloud system, and such people are literally an open book.”
Yep, absolutely. It is literally sheep following sheep off the cliff into the abyss. I am very worried about the fact that so many are willing to just accept it and put up with it when there is an independent and superior option free.
Seriously, it is still a pig under that old style desktop. Just look at how many 3rd party applications folks have suggested over the last few years just to make Win 10 work correctly or to fix what MS broke. An OS that requires 25 3rd party apps to keep it secure and functioning properly? Whats wrong with that picture...
I just went to the Linux link you provided, and I must say, I'm intrigued. Linux has definitely come a long way since I was first introduced to Ubuntu in 2010. It now looks like a product that non-techies can handle without too much trouble.
Years ago, the learning curve was just too steep for most simple users to manage. I do agree with you - it looks and behaves a lot like Windows - which is perfect for newcomers looking to break free from Microsoft for the first time.
I saved the link, just in case I get up the nerve. Thanks!
[[As soon as I get around to it, it’s getting a clean install of Linux Mint thrown on it.]]
download and burn a copy onto a disk to give it a test go- I like the mint cinnamon version- kinda like windows feel to it- you can try it out on the disk without installing it, and even make changes (ie set up desktop how you like it- install programs etc- and it won’t change anything on your actual desktop- as soon as you reboot, it gets rid of all the changes (you’ll have to reinstall programs and make changes again every time you boot to the disk unless you make a new disk with all the changes made- I am not sure how to do that though))
It’s a good way to give it a try without actually installing it
Yep, it is all point and click drag and drop easy to use like Win7. In two years now I have only absolutely needed the “command line” which is like the DOS prompt in Windows twice. Once to configure my own VPN tunnel server with OpenVPN, and the second time was to configure VirtualBox for VM environments. Everything else has been a point and click graphic interface just like normal Win 7 in function.
Please just holler if I can help! Like I mentioned you can test drive it without actually installing it yet. :)
Yep, When test driving it you can’t download anything and save it, and any temporary changes you make will reset to default next time you boot it. But once it is installed the gloves are off and it is good to go.
But here is something cool Bob. You can take a 32 or 64 gig thumbdrive and set it up to be a portable linux computer that you CAN download to and save stuff just like a portable hard drive and OS. When you boot to it, it just borrows all the hardware but operates like a whole separate PC, changes, downloads, apps and all!
[[Cool thing about mint is that you can talk to and chat with Clem directly]]
The only problem with that is their answers necessitate that you have a Geek understanding of computers and linux command line knowledge lol-
I love linux mint cinnamon, but if you do run into problems, finding solutions is very difficult- and when one is found, it’s very difficult for the novice to implement the fix- you have to do a bunch of command line commands- ity’s not easy- However, I’ve only rarely had to do any of that, as my linux is really only for email and browsing the internet- and perhaps some business apps like word (not word, but the linux version- can’t remember name now)- so i haven’t had to mess with commands much-
Installing programs from the software manager is pretty easy- but if you want some program not in the manager, you gotta know how to manually install, and that is a bit tricky for a novice- but again- the only program I’ve installed that weren’t from the manager is a mouse gesture app program that i can’t live without lol— and it wasn’t too hard to do-
I dual boot into windows 7 whenever I need to do serious work in windows only programs- or want to play windows only games- but mostly-
I love linux and love that it’s so secure online- but there are times i want my windows 7 too- but I’m just a very casual user, so linux fits my needs very well and I don’t have to muck with it much, so I don’t have to learn all these command line instructions- people that like to dive into their os’s and mess with things but don’t know commands will have a harder time with it- but folks that love command line stuff will love linux-
Like math, programming can be very hard and complex.
I ran my last PC with dual boot along side Win 7, it was great to be booted in linux yet still have the ability to go grab files as needed out of the windows partition also.
Here’s a tip for you, I like to use the “synaptic” that is included with cinnamon also. It will go grab the more recent versions of the apps available than the software manager does. I go do a “is there a whatever for linux?” net search to see if there is such an app I need for linux and then go type the name into synaptic.
Synaptic is a search engine it’s self for all linux stuff, which is not just limited to mint or linux, it will look for and grab the most recent version from all sources available. Then if there are any added dependencies needed it will go grab and install those at the same time also in one operation.
MS cannot touch this very cool ability to self check for dependencies when downloading an app and add them in the one time combined install process. :)
[[I saved the link, just in case I get up the nerve. Thanks!]]
Windflier- make a CD of the linux mint ISO- you can try it without making any changes to your computer- everything you reboot- whatever changes you made using the disk are discarded- you’ll be working in a kind of virtual operating scene and it won’t isntall anything until you’re ready if you decide to- It’s a great way to try out the OS- it’ll be a little slower booting up because it’s working off the CD- but still- you can make changes, intall stuff, etc into the virtual environment, and again, it makes no changes to your actual main os-
It’s not too hard ot make the CD- just download the mint ISO (I recommend the cinnamon version) and use a program to burn the iso to a disk- I think windows has a program already isntalled that can do so- but i don’t remember-
Then just pop the disk in, reboot your system, and a menu will coem up to boot to the CD- choose that and off you go into the wild blue yonder of linux nirvana lol
Don’t know about the shutdown without internet feature. Wouldn’t put it past them.
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