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The SR-71 Blackbird's Predecessor Created "Plasma Stealth" By Burning Cesium-Laced Fuel
The War Zone ^ | 12 Sept 2019 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 09/14/2019 5:34:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: wastedyears

“Either that, or sending up some poor soul for extremely long-duration missions in space.”

We have the technology now and the robots available to take on these years long developmental missions. We should use the robots to man the airships to accomplish travel to Mars and wherever. Then, if its determined worthwhile, send AOC.


21 posted on 09/14/2019 9:14:49 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A vice president at Northrup once told me that the plane (SR71) literally leaked fuel until up to speed and the frame and / or skin expanded.


22 posted on 09/14/2019 9:16:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
The SR-71 uses the JP-7 fuel (Jet Propellant-7) and it has a very high flash point of 60 °C (140 °F). Hence even if you throw in a match, it won't catch fire. The TEB (Triethylborane) is used to ignite the JP-7 at high altitudes and to maintain the ignition at high speeds and this enables the Turboramjet engine to capture and sustain the ignition.
23 posted on 09/14/2019 10:20:08 PM PDT by Daaave ("You Nexus, huh? I design your eyes.")
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To: gaijin

See X-37B


24 posted on 09/15/2019 1:04:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: MHGinTN

True - the plane took off with only a limited supply of fuel and needed to be refueled once airborn


25 posted on 09/15/2019 1:09:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Yep - and with Cesium, the on-board clocks would always be right....


26 posted on 09/15/2019 3:41:56 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Nateman

True, but it is unlikely in the extreme that elemental cesium was used. Cesium COMPOUNDS are not (or not nearly) as reactive. An inorganic possibility is cesium carbonate, but I think more likely that some organometallic complex was used to enhance solubility in the organic fuel matrix.


27 posted on 09/15/2019 4:08:25 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: gaijin
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28 posted on 09/15/2019 4:12:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

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29 posted on 09/15/2019 4:41:27 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: trebb

and with Cesium, the on-board clocks would always be right....

Not exactly, kind of sort of.

The time dilation thing, kind of creeps up on you.

Cesium Beam atomic clock units used in the Hafele–Keating experiment.

And the whole project was checked by a stewardess with her Timex. See photo at link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment


30 posted on 09/15/2019 6:08:46 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

There is a book about this and more called “Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years of Lockheed” by by Ben R. Rich and Leo Janos

Fascinating read!


31 posted on 09/15/2019 10:12:36 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (NuRulz)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Epilogue from the book.

Ben R. Rich died from cancer on January 5, 1995. Ben died as he had lived — with courage, good
humor, and resolve. At his request, his ashes were scattered from an airplane near his beachfront
house on the California coast in Oxnard. At the moment his ashes were released, a Stealth fighter
appeared out of the clouds and dipped its wings in a final salute to its creator.

https://archive.org/stream/SkunkWorksAPersonalMemoirOfMyYearsAtLockheedBenRRich/Skunk%20Works_%20A%20Personal%20Memoir%20of%20My%20Years%20at%20Lockheed%20-%20Ben%20R%20Rich—_djvu.txt


32 posted on 09/15/2019 11:02:25 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Tallguy

The X-37B has a predictable path. A manned aircraft can be launched and fly a multiple vector path with no warning.


33 posted on 09/15/2019 11:20:43 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Tallguy
"With what the X-37B space plane can do, and its multi-year endurance on-orbit, there’s no real need for an ultra expensive air-breathing manned vehicle."

You assume it has a reconnaissance role, even in part, when there is no evidence to that effect. It's too cheap by a factor of 10 to compete with the KH-11s and to cheap by a further factor of 10 to compare to 'Misty.'

34 posted on 09/16/2019 7:09:17 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Not to mention the X-37 is only the size of a small truck (which puts a severe limit on space available for surveillance gear) and KH-11 is the size of a bus (Misty we don’t know about).


35 posted on 09/16/2019 7:21:51 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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