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Windows 7 support will end on January 14, 2020 (A Friendly Reminder to FR's Win7 Die-Hards)
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Posted on 11/24/2019 9:12:44 AM PST by dayglored

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To: MayflowerMadam

Vista, once it’s installed and completely updated, runs just fine. Basically, it’ll operate mostly like Windows 7. If I had a machine designed for Vista I’d probably install it too.


101 posted on 11/24/2019 2:28:46 PM PST by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: TomGuy
I recall with WinXP that my browser could not handle many of the newer videos and websites.

The geeky way around that is to load a VM Player and run a flavor of 32-bit Linux under WinXP. Modern content is designed to run on phones with 32-bit browsers, and even an old i3 or Core2Duo will outperform the Atoms and older ARM processors on low end laptops and tablets.
102 posted on 11/24/2019 2:29:59 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Between the parted pages and were pressed In love's hot, fevered iron Like a striped pair of pants)
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To: miliantnutcase
It would be nice if people did upgrade and continue to get security updates... There’s millions of botnet computers out there and just about all of them are people still on Windows XP. The same thing will happen with 7.

There are lots of ways to keep botnets from taking over without upgrading the OS. Heck, before Microsoft got tough on phone in license numbers, some people would reload an image off of external devices every month just to keep demo licenses current. and to clean up flotsam at the same time.
103 posted on 11/24/2019 2:32:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Between the parted pages and were pressed In love's hot, fevered iron Like a striped pair of pants)
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To: dayglored

Just wasted my time reading the FAQs in the link of the article. The answer to every FAQ was, “upgrade to Windows 10”. (Of course.)


104 posted on 11/24/2019 2:40:23 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: ducttape45

Man, if that all worked for you, then right on.


105 posted on 11/24/2019 3:07:33 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: 9YearLurker
> Do you know what percentage, roughly, of Windows applications would run in it okay? I am wondering, for example, about the Finale music scoring app.

I looked up the system requirements for Finale (v26) and they’re quite reasonable: a 2+ core CPU, 4GB RAM minimum. So you would want a host machine with at least 4 cores, or 2 cores with hyperthreading (which yields 4 effective cores), and probably 8GB RAM. You should reserve 2 virtual cores and a few GB of RAM for the host to run in while the VM is active.

As to how many Windows programs run successfully in VMs, almost all do in my experience, with the following significant caveat: “Real-time” processes generally do not perform flawlessly, because the VM only has a percentage of the host’s attention. So audio playback might suffer unless you are able to specify to the host that the VM must get full control of the audio functions. This could be a problem for Finale if you play the music back through that program.

106 posted on 11/24/2019 3:36:50 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Well, yeah... I, too, expected that to be the default answer.

The main/only value of that Q&A was to get people thinking about what the ramifications of sticking with Win7 would be. In my line of work, I’m constantly confronted with users who, though they use a computer every day, really have no clue what’s going on.

Kinda like me with cars. Prior to 10 years ago, I maintained nearly everything myself, repairing the suspension, rebuilding the carburetor*, etc. Now about all I can do is repair the brakes and swap tires around — everything else under the hood has become some form of black magic.

* Remember carburetors?

107 posted on 11/24/2019 3:47:11 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

“Kinda like me with cars.”

Don’t even get me started on cars. We got a 2017 Toyota in October and the USB audio in the “Entune” system would not work. I looked on online and there are literally thousands of posts by people with the same problem. Some suggested work-arounds, some never could make it work. I finally did, experimenting with different configurations of files, folders, dragging vs copy/paste, etc., but it took three weeks. (I never give up with computer issues.) One guy said he spent $50K on his car and can’t listen to music.

Toyota has been aware since 2014, but they’ve ignored it.

So if an audio system is a problem, then I can’t even imagine how mysterious the important guts of cars must be now with high tech computers. My dad’s “funnest” thing to do was tinker with cars, and he went into a funk when they all got computerized.


108 posted on 11/24/2019 3:56:03 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: Boomer

If Skype will work on android it will work on linux. Android is linux, and Skype has a linux client.

https://download.cnet.com/Skype-for-Ubuntu-64-bit/3000-2349_4-75300363.html

The only thing I held out with Win 7 to last as dual boot on my Mint PC was because of Google Earth. The “official” GE download for Earth did not work, but I was able to locate an older version of GE that works fantastic and even faster using less resources on Linux Mint than on Win 7.

If you try this download for your Linux box please update me and let me know if it works. I would like to have that for my Linux knowledge base if you don’t mind?


109 posted on 11/24/2019 4:00:33 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: cymbeline

A one time fee. Also wondering if your excel and word license carries forward. Probably, but check. Also you can test your system for win 10 compatibility. Do this if you haven’t already.


110 posted on 11/24/2019 4:07:47 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dayglored

bookmarked page


111 posted on 11/24/2019 4:32:23 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: dayglored

Thanks so much—I really appreciate your thoughtful and informed reply!


112 posted on 11/24/2019 4:38:05 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: dayglored

Ha!

Still using Win Xp SP3 here ... and three different browsers (depending on the website).


113 posted on 11/24/2019 4:40:27 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

re: “Microsoft tried to get everyone on Win7 to switch for free at first. But that ended quite a while ago. “

I’ve got an “image” file for that upgrade, will it ‘register’ today if I install it?


114 posted on 11/24/2019 4:44:16 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Texicanus

My tagline on my last job was, “As long as Microsoft continues to make crappy software I’ll continue to keep my crappy job”


115 posted on 11/24/2019 4:53:25 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Texicanus

re: “I’m so old I can remember when Bill Gates was a poor financially insecure college dropout ...”

You left out a very important part - old Gates was using university hardware to write (basically) emulators for the BASIC he was writing ...

From: https://igotoffer.com/microsoft/altair-basic

Bill Gates and Paul Allen had neither an interpreter nor even an Altair system on which to develop and test one. However, Allen adapted an Intel 8008 emulator he had written on the Altair programmer guide for Traf-O-Data then ran on a PDP-10 time-sharing computer. Allen and Gates developed and tested the interpreter on Harvard’s PDP-10 computer (there was no written policy that covered the use of this computer). The developers even bought computer time from a timesharing service in Boston to complete their BASIC program debugging. They also hired Harvard student Monte Davidoff to write floating-point arithmetic routines for the interpreter, a feature not available in many of its competitors.

The finished interpreter, including its own I/O system and line editor, fit in only four kilobytes of memory. In preparation for the demo, Allen and Gates stored the finished interpreter on a punched tape that the Altair could read, and Paul Allen flew to Albuquerque.

He wrote a bootstrap program to read the tape into memory in 8080 machine language during the flight. Only when Allen and Gates loaded the program onto an Altair and saw a prompt asking for the system’s memory size, did they realize that their interpreter worked on the Altair hardware.


116 posted on 11/24/2019 4:56:03 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: dayglored

Keep what you want. My XP is doing just fine. It runs my expensive instruments while Win10 hopes to cheat me out of them.


117 posted on 11/24/2019 4:56:24 PM PST by GingisK
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To: _Jim; ducttape45
I’ve got an “image” file for that upgrade, will it ‘register’ today if I install it?

I doubt it, but, ducttape45 seems to have had success at it.

118 posted on 11/24/2019 4:57:09 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

re: “I doubt it, but, ducttape45 seems to have had success at it. “

Thanks, I went back and read all his posts, I’ve got one Dell with a W7 key I’ll try that on.


119 posted on 11/24/2019 5:06:33 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: GingisK

Can’t argue with that. :-)


120 posted on 11/24/2019 5:06:52 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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