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U-Haul to deny employment to nicotine users in 21 states, including Massachusetts, beginning Feb. 1
Mass live ^ | 2 Jan 2020 | Tim Jones

Posted on 01/02/2020 11:25:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT

As a constitutionalist, I think they should have the right to refuse to employ people with a certain eye color or height or age. So I have zero problem with this.

Where this stuff crosses a line with me is when governments require things like this with laws like Jim Crow. Government can’t discriminate, but private parties should have the right to and, in fact, the constitution protects that right. Even if the private party is a business. Though some on this and other SCOTUS would agree with me.


21 posted on 01/02/2020 11:39:18 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Skywise

Marijuana isn’t illegal in California, but places can still pot test and deny employment based on usage.


22 posted on 01/02/2020 11:39:29 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: rktman

How about motorcycle riders, extreme sports participants, etc.

This will not end well.


23 posted on 01/02/2020 11:40:13 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So what is the detection level?

They could have an “issue.”

https://testcountry.com/blogs/nicotine/6-common-food-with-nicotine-content

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24 posted on 01/02/2020 11:40:27 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Still Thinking

There are plenty of people OK with companies denying pot smokers employment even if it’s legal in that state. I have less than zero sympathy for anyone who smokes and is angered by this if they don’t equally condemn any company that drug tests for anything else.


25 posted on 01/02/2020 11:41:55 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: a fool in paradise

i agree with this! and i cannot understand why it’s ok to create a “pickle Park” but a man/woman combo in public makes the newspapers.
Everybody just get a room.


26 posted on 01/02/2020 11:42:01 AM PST by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The Beavis and Buttheads of the world are in position to take over!


27 posted on 01/02/2020 11:44:43 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: subterfuge

My company is located in a smoke-free campus. There aren’t any designated smoking areas anywhere.

Employees are required to sign a nicotine attestation during open enrollment, and are hit with a large monthly surcharge if they are smokers.

As someone whose out-of-pocket premium is based on the annual company-wide usage of health benefits, I’m 100% good with this.

Yes, I know cheeseburger attestations are next, but smoking is just plain stupid at this point.


28 posted on 01/02/2020 11:46:40 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This can’t be constitutional-


29 posted on 01/02/2020 11:47:54 AM PST by Bob434
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What if they charged smokers more for benefits instead? To be honest, I don’t see a solution ever coming for health care, it’s depressing, soon will be working solely for benefits, that’s it.


30 posted on 01/02/2020 11:48:57 AM PST by GulfMan
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To: BBQToadRibs

OMG this is insanity how do you like living in communism lite!!!!


31 posted on 01/02/2020 11:50:42 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
C.S.Lewis

These people will not stop until everyone is choked under the heel of their oppression.


32 posted on 01/02/2020 11:50:50 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Bob434

This can’t be constitutional-”

The Constitution does not mention hiring and employment practices for private companies.


33 posted on 01/02/2020 11:51:53 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: Bob434

GEEZE even in communist China people are allowed to smoke GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK!!! NEVER thought I would see the day, seems I am saying this EVERY DAY now!!!


34 posted on 01/02/2020 11:52:43 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

My company is located in a smoke-free campus. There aren’t any designated smoking areas anywhere.

“It’s so Soviet!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBv8j4Xb3E


35 posted on 01/02/2020 11:53:29 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bob434

I see nothing in my copy of the Constitution which gives the government the slightest right to interfere in the employer-employee relationship.

IT’s every bit as legal as drug testing in state that have legal cannabis.

But then I think *ANY* testing of blood, breath, DNA, or urine should ONLY be permitted by one’s doctor with all results completely confidential.


36 posted on 01/02/2020 11:55:47 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Meatspace

It does mention the right to pursue happiness nicotine makes some people happy!!!


37 posted on 01/02/2020 11:55:49 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Uhaul is a thug outfit. Has been for a long time.


38 posted on 01/02/2020 11:57:00 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“OMG this is insanity how do you like living in communism lite!!!!”

No, it’s the American system, where private companies make decisions they belive are best for their bottom line.


39 posted on 01/02/2020 11:57:28 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“It does mention the right to pursue happiness nicotine makes some people happy!!!”

Where does the U.S. Constitution mention the right to pursue happiness?


40 posted on 01/02/2020 12:00:27 PM PST by Meatspace
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