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U-Haul to deny employment to nicotine users in 21 states, including Massachusetts, beginning Feb. 1
Mass live ^ | 2 Jan 2020 | Tim Jones

Posted on 01/02/2020 11:25:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: Still Thinking

I agree, completely.

The problem is that tests for cannabis and nicotine only show whether or not you’ve used it in the last several days or weeks.


61 posted on 01/02/2020 12:23:12 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Meatspace

If you don’t nip this thing on the bud, soon everyone will be doing it. Like when they say “If you don’t want to live in an HOA, don’t buy in one.”. Ok, where? Demanding free work, which is how this should be viewed, is illegal.


62 posted on 01/02/2020 12:24:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Ron H.

“Nicotine users miss more work days”

Women as a whole miss more work days than men.


63 posted on 01/02/2020 12:24:52 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Meatspace
U-Haul will save money on health insurance

No they won't........Group health insurance rates have nothing to do with the personal habits of an employer's employees.

64 posted on 01/02/2020 12:25:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Ron H.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5830a5.htm


65 posted on 01/02/2020 12:26:35 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: euram

“How about denying employment to those who weigh more than 5 lbs over their ideal weight as determined by a chart?”

A private company has the right to do that and there are companies that do exactly that.


66 posted on 01/02/2020 12:26:37 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: Still Thinking

“Ok, where? Demanding free work, which is how this should be viewed, is illegal.”

Are there any other employment regulations and laws that you want the government to force on private companies?


67 posted on 01/02/2020 12:28:53 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace

They have to prove that there is a legitimate business reason for restricting the employee’s weight.

For example: being part of an aircraft crew.


68 posted on 01/02/2020 12:29:52 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Hot Tabasco

But you do agree that U-Haul has the right to their own employment policies?


69 posted on 01/02/2020 12:30:15 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Interesting. I thought that I had just heard (some podcast probably) that nicotine by itself, though addictive, did not pose a health risk.
Smoking obviously does.
Chewing tobacco can.
Gum or nicotine patches?
Vaping nicotine? Jury’s still out.


70 posted on 01/02/2020 12:33:44 PM PST by Rio
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“””””The same states will no doubt force them to hire marijuana users.””””””””

As a subcontractor on government funded construction projects I am often forced to hire minorities. I don’t want to hire someone based on their skin color but they say I must.


71 posted on 01/02/2020 12:33:46 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t see any 400 pound fighter pilots and don’t see any 350 pound supermodels.

However, being fat may not be a choice, while being a smoker is always a choice.


72 posted on 01/02/2020 12:34:24 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace
But you do agree that U-Haul has the right to their own employment policies?

Ultimately the answer to that depends upon lawyers, courts, "human relations commissions" and finger-in-the-wind politicians seeking popularity. In 2020 companies are greatly restricted.


73 posted on 01/02/2020 12:35:27 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

I agree. In the course of human history, alcohol use goes back tens of millennia, but nicotine use only goes back 500 years to the time of Columbus; the natives he & other explorers encountered were using tobacco, and this found its way back to Europe.

Cheeseburger affidavits are unnecessary; just make all employees weigh in on a regular basis since those who are overweight drive up company medical costs, which as you say affects each employee’s insurance premiums.

“Hey, hit the salad bar, fatso! You’re driving up my insurance!”

;^)


74 posted on 01/02/2020 12:36:17 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

How about if we leave private company hiring practices up to the private companies and keep the government out of it?


75 posted on 01/02/2020 12:38:43 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace

“ Where does the U.S. Constitution mention the right to pursue happiness?”
It’s right after the “good and plenty” clause. /S


76 posted on 01/02/2020 12:39:12 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Anal sex is less healthy than nicotine, especially sex with strangers. When are they going to forbid hiring anyone partaking in anal?


77 posted on 01/02/2020 12:40:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: cuban leaf

Agreed... but laws themselves, ALL laws, discriminate. That is how laws work. And to inhibit free-will discrimination of ANY kind is counter/repugnant against the rights GUARANTEED to every individual by the constitution... God given natural inalienable rights.

These rights include the right to free association, free will, free choice, right to your labor/property, right to freely discriminate and the right to choose personal destiny. Which applies equally to any party, group, association or business.

No laws can abridge those rights unless your free-exercising of certain rights are harmful to the free-exercise of someone else’s rights. Then laws must be in place to protect you from other individuals, groups, associations or businesses from making harmful choices. “There can be no freedom without the law.” - Moses


78 posted on 01/02/2020 12:41:25 PM PST by Bellagio
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To: outpostinmass2
Women as a whole miss more work days than men.

Women have no choice for being born a woman. Nicotine users make choices, lousy ones but it is their choice none the less.

79 posted on 01/02/2020 12:48:00 PM PST by Ron H. (Gab.com)
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To: cgbg

“My goal is to outlive every anti-smoking person I know!”


Me too,and since I’ve reached age 87 I am well on my way. :-)

.


80 posted on 01/02/2020 12:48:53 PM PST by Mears
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