Posted on 01/20/2020 12:08:52 AM PST by nickcarraway
I just saw a movie called “Into the forest”, about survival after the electrical system goes dead for over a year. It was not all that good, but one thing that was interesting was these two 20 something sisters were trying to survive in a home in the forest eating only vegetables and wild stuff they found, while there was a large wild pig population in the area.
One of the girls was pregnant and was not looking very healthy. They had a few health books that they used to survive and one described the pregnant girl’s condition and said it was a vitamin B12 deficiency. And the solution was meat and dairy products.
They killed a pig, slaughtered it, roasted it up and ate like kings - er, Queens - the best meal they had for many months. And she was healthy.
We are omnivores. You can eat a balanced diet with meat, or you can make micromanaging your diet with veganism a major part of your daily chores and you still may be fine. But I choose the latter. Veganism is for survival mode. Meat and animal fat are actually very good for you.
That includes fish, BTW...
Same here. I eat them as a duty, and eat them first to get them off my plate so I can then go on to enjoy the meat and potatoes or the fish and rice.
Back when I was in high school (grad of 1972) people used to throw out the phrase, “People will never accept that.”
To which I responded, “I think what you mean is that THIS GENERATION will never accept that.”
I don’t get a lot of things right, but I think I nailed that one, if modern history is any proof.
Latter = former
DOH!
If you do any research you will find it is the most unhealthy diet you can eat. Pure brainwashing has made people doom themselves to this unhealthy lifestyle.
It generally will shorten your life by 10 years according to studies on Indian monks.
We do the extended family beach gathering each year... 20+ people. We share cooking/cleaning chores. When it’s my turn to cook...it’s always bbq ribs, baked potatoes, salad & garlic bread. The vegans either go out that night, or make do with spuds and salad...if they can stand the smell of the me boiling the ribs (my method for pre-cooking the ribs...then apply sauce and grill’em outdoors).
I don’t care if someone is vegan. That leaves more meat for me. My problem is that they won’t stop talking about it!
The greatest slam on a vegan I have ever heard came from Gordon Ramsay, “you’re a vegan you have no palate!”
This fatuous statement ignores the opposite side - which is also a truth. With such a strong interest in reaching the conclusion that eating meat is NOT okay, how can the author expect to honestly discuss the issue?
. . . and that is now vegan. I dunno for sure why, but Im not needing as much blood pressure medicine now. That much difference in the diet surely must be having some effect.Pretending we are herbivores is very much like those freaks in the trans community. - LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
My father-in-law spoke of being sent out to gather blackberries in season - and that was what was dinner. Nothing else, blackberries. What ya eat is what you have to eat.You and I grew up in affluent post-WWII America, when we were able to take meat on the table for granted; Mother used to say that Meat makes the meal. But the truth is that for most people, most of the time, meat has not been on the table. Not remotely the way we grew up accustomed to.
And when you get to be an octogenarian, its pretty natural to be dead. So, whats natural got to do with health at that point?
Proven fast that eating soy based foods makes the body produce more estrogen which will make you gain weight. More estrogen in the body will also override testosterone in males making them more easy to control.
An MO of many cults is to disrumpt the cogative ability of their victims with depleting vegatarian diets.
Don’t get me wrong. I like vegetables and love my salads. Often, that’s all I eat for supper. Meat’s great, and I get my share, but it’s not a requirement to be on the table. As for “You and I grew up in affluent post-WWII America”...
When I was a kid...bologna, beanie/weanies, hamburger helper, beans/cornbread were staples around our house. Not affluent eating, but good and filling. I still like all of the above.
Also...”Im not needing as much blood pressure medicine now.”
That’s great. Sounds like it’s working for you.
Our primitive fore fathers didnt cross continents in search of brussel sprouts, they were looking for fat,
On reflection I understood the fatted calf from the Bible. There are times and places putting fat on an animal is almost impossible and very rare.
We live in the land of plenty and complain with our mouths full. (that is in the Bible also and the results of the complaining was not good.)
Let me repeat:
We live in the land of plenty and complain with our mouths full. History repeats it self and there will come a time when food will be scarce again.
We used to have a federal food security policy of a 3 year reserve of corn and other food. Now if we don’t use the last of the old crop the day before the new crop comes in, we screwed up. Anyone see a recipe for disaster?
Veganism = Grazing
Another good slogan is “Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder...”
Actually if you want to get into the nitty gritty, without meat we would be another animal on the savanna.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120420105539.htm
https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5417583/
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-led-to-smaller-stomachs-bigger-brains/
Read up.
Vegans are cultists who almost always look like survivors of Dachau.
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