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WUHAN VIRUS/Experts find how moderate 2019-nCoV infection ends with death
CNA English News ^ | 02/09/2020

Posted on 02/09/2020 1:03:57 PM PST by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

The coronavirus can last a while before the downturn from what I’ve read. A case in point is the whistleblower Dr. Li Wenliang. He started having mild symptoms on Jan 10, tested negative several times, finally tested positive on Jan 20, and died on Feb 6.


21 posted on 02/09/2020 1:44:39 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

He was only 34


22 posted on 02/09/2020 1:45:02 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: BenLurkin

Hopefully, allowed to quote the article...

“But for other patients, new treatments can calm the storm and bring remarkable recoveries. Cron and Behrens “both got interested in this through a patient we saw in Pennsylvania,” Cron said. “Probably the sickest patient I ever saw come out of the ICU unscathed.” The doctors treated her with anakinra, a cytokine-targeting therapy that was approved to treat the autoimmune disease rheumatoid arthritis. “She turned around and it was magical,” Cron recalled. “We’re both research scientists, so he developed a mouse model [of cytokine storm syndrome] and I’ve been studying the genetic and human aspects. We’ve identified new genes not previously described as a part of this genetic workup.”

In 2016, Cron and Winn Chatham, M.D., professor in the Division of Clinical Immunology and Rheumatology, began a clinical trial at UAB and Children’s Hospital to study the safety of anakinra in patients with signs of severe, potentially life-threatening inflammation. Cron is director of the Division of Pediatric Rheumatology at Children’s of Alabama. Anakinra is “remarkably safe,” and following this initial study, the researchers hope to begin a larger trial in the future”.

From here;

https://www.newswise.com/articles/here-s-a-playbook-for-stopping-deadly-cytokine-storm-syndrome


23 posted on 02/09/2020 1:45:18 PM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: Lady Heron

That’s why older people are vaccinated against flu. Their prospect of recovery are lower than for younger people.


24 posted on 02/09/2020 1:46:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: BenLurkin

cytokene storms not very treatable; mixed results with NAC and steroiods; however the following works, but probably would be available only to the super-rich elite at this point:

https://www.americanlaboratory.com/914-Application-Notes/340464-An-Effective-Treatment-Strategy-for-Cytokine-Storm-in-Severe-Influenza/


25 posted on 02/09/2020 1:47:03 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: goldstategop
Funny thing is that one of the theories of why this started is that China vaccinated for SAARs or a bio weapon and the elderly population incubated this strain from that vaccination...THEORY, one of many. Seems like there can be problems with vaccinating elderly from the scientist I listened to that theory from.
26 posted on 02/09/2020 1:53:04 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: DugwayDuke

Oh f***. This is really bad


27 posted on 02/09/2020 2:18:07 PM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: BenLurkin

..”A storm of inflammations”..

Horrible.


28 posted on 02/09/2020 2:41:00 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: sanjuanbob

its called a cytokine storm. Young heathy immune systems are especially vulnerable, as in 1918.


29 posted on 02/09/2020 2:52:28 PM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: BenLurkin

This is why I brought a bottle of Benadryl tablets with me.

I had a flu/allergy bout last week in Northern Laos, just south of the China border. When my lungs started filling up I drank lots of hot coffee and took Benadryl. It saved me from pneumonia.

For a day I felt like my head was going to explode, but my chest cleared up real fast.


30 posted on 02/09/2020 3:46:23 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Benadryl will clear your lungs?


31 posted on 02/09/2020 5:06:44 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: sanjuanbob

I think it was Rummy Chick who had something like this happen to a family member


32 posted on 02/09/2020 5:58:20 PM PST by terart
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To: PIF

The 1918 Spanish Flu did the same thing.


33 posted on 02/09/2020 6:02:12 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Um, not nearly enough, and it has the disadvantage of leaving the patient open to other infections.


34 posted on 02/09/2020 6:05:57 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ifinnegan

“SARS caused cytokine storm as well”

Cytosorbents Corp. (New Jersey based) makes a small filter cartridge which plugs into a dialysis machine. It’s essentially a blood filter and is approved for use in much of Europe to control Cytokine storm during Open Heart surgery. One cartridge will filter for about eight hours if I recall correctly.

There is potentially numerous applications including sepsis which if effective would save the lives of an incredible amount of people. It’s a slow slog to get through the FDA process in the States and the current FDA testing is for reducing the severity of acute kidney injury, not Cytokine storm.

Meantime someone needs to get on the horn with them stat and get pallets of these filters on order.


35 posted on 02/10/2020 2:20:25 AM PST by DAC21 ( and Naflet)
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To: catnipman
I'm not a doctor, although I work in the medical field. I read a report the other day that said the cytokine storm is from the body inadequately developing defenses to the virus early on. They said that suppressing fever causes the inadequate defense development and that anti fever medication should not be taken until the fever is 103.5..104.0.

FWIW
36 posted on 02/10/2020 6:06:00 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: DAC21

Good to know.

I imagine these filters are made in China :(


37 posted on 02/10/2020 6:16:07 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
systemic inflammatory response syndrome called "cytokine storm"
Batten down the nostrils, it's going to be quite a blow!

38 posted on 02/10/2020 7:40:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin
...patients who developed only moderate symptoms at the onset of the disease later fell seriously ill and died of multiple organ failure. He termed the condition a "storm of inflammations"

Maybe 'the storm' doesn't happen until the second or third time a person is infected... this IS a weapon after all...

39 posted on 02/10/2020 8:06:10 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: BenLurkin
whoops, sorry, that was yours. [blush]

40 posted on 02/10/2020 8:52:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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