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Rant: just watched 1984 After many years
None ^ | Feb 24 | Me

Posted on 02/24/2020 9:08:51 PM PST by NachOsten

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To: alexander_busek

There is a seldom shown 1956 version of ‘’1984’’ staring Edmond O’Brien and Jan Sterling. It’s very .... gritty and stark like Orwell’s story.


21 posted on 02/24/2020 10:11:10 PM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strentgh?)
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To: NachOsten

FRiend.... you are missing some research. It is Chi-Coms who lost control of a weaponized virus at it’s Wuhan Biowarfare center. It is the desperate chicoms and their fake economy of free labor which certain elements in the US have always kow towed to-— for cheap prison labor. Off shore labor. The Clintons,the Bloombergs and nearly all of techie Californication, and oh yes... WalMart (remember when hitlery sat on their BOD?) Chi-Coms. Not oligarch Russians, who are beginning to understand the chinese threat to the rest of the world.


22 posted on 02/24/2020 10:12:44 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: fluorescence

Indeed, Lenin’s family was upper middle class- his father was a school inspector/ curriculum. Lenin’s brother got caught trying to kill a Tsar by bombing,and was hung by the Ohkrana- the Tsarist police. Lenin’s “communism” was simply revenge.

Should also mention Lenin was syphilitic— he died of neurosyphilis in incredible neural pain, and of two strokes caused by the neural damage. And was a schizophrenic. So there is all that. Hardly a bernie type.... bernie is a loser who is pissed and should be paid attention to-— especially as regards any VP pick (should he win). Fight outright— the man is a complete lying thief. Socialism is theft— it has to be.


23 posted on 02/24/2020 10:17:06 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: jmacusa

“There is a seldom shown 1956 version of ‘’1984’’ staring Edmond O’Brien and Jan Sterling. It’s very .... gritty and stark like Orwell’s story.”

YouTube link right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCZBnUt6rZ0


24 posted on 02/24/2020 10:41:20 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Thanks.


25 posted on 02/24/2020 10:46:13 PM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strentgh?)
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To: jmacusa

I’m downloading it now.
In the 2020 version, starring Bernie Sanders and AOC, Big Brother is the hero of the film. ;^)


26 posted on 02/24/2020 10:50:27 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: NachOsten

Yeah, the reference to “1984” in your rant title produces confusion because it (the Orwell novel) is so frequently referred to (and so well known by many) that the reader’s mind is automatically primed to evaluate what follows in comparison to the novel.

That said, I’m still looking for a reference by you to earlier revolutions in 20th century Russia; the ones that created the Duma and began the process of trying to turn Russia into a constitutional democracy:

https://www.thoughtco.com/russian-revolutions-1906-1913-1221817

These revolutions and rebellions created the boiling political mess that made possible the “October” Revolution of very late 1917.

I also await a reference to the appalling Russian combat losses in World War 1.

Lenin is reported to have said that the [communist] revolution could not survive if the war continued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk?wprov=sfti1

The Germans wanted a peace treaty with Russia for one reason: the release of Eastern Front divisions that could be redeployed for the massive German Spring 1918 offensive against the Allies. I doubt either Hindenberg or Ludendorff were thinking much beyond somehow winning the war in the West in 1918 before the hordes of American resources and soldiers showed up in force and made victory impossible. That meant getting the Eastern Front shut down. And shutting down the Eastern Front meant getting control over the naisaient Russian Government. Cue V.I. Lenin. It was a big risk but he delivered and that’s all they cared about. In the end, they lost anyway.


27 posted on 02/24/2020 11:06:48 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: NachOsten

Yeah, the reference to “1984” in your rant title produces confusion because it (the Orwell novel) is so frequently referred to (and so well known by many) that the reader’s mind is automatically primed to evaluate what follows in comparison to the novel.

I’m still looking for a reference by you to earlier revolutions in 20th century Russia, the ones that created the Duma and began the process of trying to turn Russia into a constitutional democracy:

https://www.thoughtco.com/russian-revolutions-1906-1913-1221817

These revolutions and rebellions created the boiling political mess that made possible the “October” Revolution of very late 1917.

I also await a reference to the appalling Russian combat losses in World War 1.

Lenin is reported to have said that the [communist] revolution could not survive if the war continued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk?wprov=sfti1

The Germans wanted a peace treaty with Russia for one reason: the release of Eastern Front divisions that could be redeployed for the massive German Spring 1918 offensive against the Allies. I doubt either Hindenberg or Ludendorff were thinking much beyond somehow winning the war in the West in 1918 before the hordes of American resources and soldiers showed up in force and made victory impossible. That meant getting the Eastern Front shut down. And shutting down the Eastern Front meant getting control over the naisaient Russian Government. Cue V.I. Lenin. It was a big risk but he delivered.


28 posted on 02/24/2020 11:09:19 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: NachOsten

Could you translate that into English?


29 posted on 02/24/2020 11:10:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: NachOsten

My favorite comment was about the nude scenes. Poster said it looks like she’s got a cat in a headlock.


30 posted on 02/24/2020 11:17:00 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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Sorry, you are a supreme being, Me, just a next Slav, to not even clove to intellect of you, could not explain


31 posted on 02/24/2020 11:23:10 PM PST by NachOsten
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just watched it, makes me want to cry and puke and the same time.

it is really money, what makes us tick?

32 posted on 02/24/2020 11:27:58 PM PST by NachOsten
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Sorry to break it to you, the DOW lost 1,000, country o9f your lost Billions, And stupid Canada of mine just lost double of that.

Plus 2 hundred people just shut down this country for 3 weeks

Funny , eh, how that happens in just matters of days.

33 posted on 02/24/2020 11:36:01 PM PST by NachOsten
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I know, You the pure white(not the color of skin).

Innocent to the core.

Who killed more people besides commies,nazis and crazy people. Not counting of their own...

34 posted on 02/24/2020 11:42:09 PM PST by NachOsten
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I think U missing the point. China IS part of IMS. Even Russia is. But Putkin is not playing his Part, needs to be Bombed.

That is just a little squirmy part of it.

Yugo, Bombed. Let's see, Libya, Not IMS, BOMBED, IRAQ, Bombed, Iran, next to be Bombed, Who else, etc, etc...

35 posted on 02/25/2020 1:21:24 AM PST by NachOsten
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To: Captain Rhino
tons of good Qs.

That is the reason I started this runt. Trying to make sense of why all of that happened?

Russkies were just annihilated in WWI. Got no reason to fight. But, as you said, give them a reason to defend....

This is the piece I wonder about, why did they go to the war?

36 posted on 02/25/2020 1:38:15 AM PST by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/

FILM 1984

Well done.


37 posted on 02/25/2020 2:20:54 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: NachOsten
just an next Slav

Do you mean exSlav? Because that looks as if you are using a speech-to-text app, which is probably why your post is so difficult to decipher. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just an observation.

38 posted on 02/25/2020 7:12:19 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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jmacusa: There is a seldom shown 1956 version of ‘’1984’’ staring Edmond O’Brien and Jan Sterling. It’s very .... gritty and stark like Orwell’s story.

elcid1970: You should watch the 1955 British film version of “1984”.

In my original posting (#3, above), I wrote:

You watched a film version (which? there were several) of George Orwell's "1984?" Your description doesn't sound at all like that!

Doesn't that suggest that I am already familiar with "1984?". Indeed, I have read the book about twenty times, and seen all of the various different film / t.v. versions (the BBC production with Peter Cushing, the film version with Edmond O'Brien, and the film version with John Hurt et al.) – also the stage version performed in London in 2014.

Regards,

39 posted on 02/25/2020 8:25:45 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: NachOsten
But what is your rant about? Some documentary you just watched on NetFlix? A Hollywood movie? What, for heaven's sake?

Regards,

40 posted on 02/25/2020 8:28:27 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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