Posted on 03/04/2020 3:52:41 PM PST by Eleutheria5
But while we’re at that, wouldn’t it be lovely if the Democrats split and a third party was born? This should be encouraged.
That would be FANTASTIC
I love watching Cenk flip out. It’s not even a hostile feeling, just happy-sigh delight.
“I don’t think the DNC wants her out until Bernie is squashed.”
Maybe. Keeping her in would make it more difficult for Bern to get a simple majority of delegates, thus forcing a brokered convention. But if she continues to perform as poorly as she did say, in Massachusetts, she won’t be getting many delegates anyway.
No, I think she’ll be gone. After next Tuesday at the latest. Maybe even before.
I remember all too well his bullying tactics against D’Souza. Indians should never be bullied. They’re too soft-spoken to defend themselves. It’s a cultural thing.
It happened before. The DOP split in three in 1948. But Truman won in a landslide, because he was able to do the same sort of thing that Trump does at his rallies. They got nobody like that, and what if they’re splitting!
Hey I didn’t know that about 1948.
I love learning something I didn’t before about history.
Too bad we don’t have 51 year old brains in our 15 year old bodies when we were young and in school :)
Well..I can speak for myself :)
Split in 3 and still won. Wow.
There is a point where I will refuse to vote for the R. Case in point...2012 and Romney. No way in hell was I going to vote for that scumbag. And my conscience is clear on that one.
Well people like you led to us getting Trump so thanks.
What else can I say?
The speech that tore the convention apart came from Hubert Humphrey, the mayor of Minneapolis. In 1947, Congressman Richard Nixon, the master politician of the age, said that nothing would change in this country with respect to race until "the Democrats bite the bullet on Jim Crow." In his speech Humphrey chewed through the bullet. Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina led a walkout of the southern states, and Thurmond ran for president on the ticket of the States' Rights Party, aka the Dixiecrats.
Truman delivered his acceptance speech in the middle of the night, much like McGovern did 24 years later. The speech was a real snore, and in the middle he muttered, "I can't read this stuff." (People still swear that Truman didn't say "stuff.") He then took off on a rhetorical rant. He announced he would call the Republican dominated Congress into special session demanding that it pass his legislation. Truman knew that nothing would be done, which was just want he wanted. He spent the rest of the campaign railing against the "do nothing Congress."
The Republicans put up Gov. Thomas Dewey of New York for the second time, with Gov. Earl Warren of California as his running mate. Dewey's lead was so great in the polls that the pollsters stopped their polling.
To make things more complicated, former Vice President Henry Wallace of Minnesota ran for president on the ticket of the Progressive Party. Wallace had avid communist backing at the time.
Truman decided to make a whistle stop tour by rail. At the first stops, there were only a few people in the crowd, but Truman gave a give-em-hell speech as though the place were packed.
At one stop in Ohio, Alice Roosevelt Longworth, TR's daughter, heard Truman speak, saw the crowd's reaction and grew alarmed. Up to this point, Dewey had campaigned on generalities and platitudes while trying to protect his lead.
Alice had one of the best brains in the party. She could rattle off the names of most of the state and county Republican chairs with a list of their strengths and weaknesses.
Alice never learned how to drive, so her chauffer drove her home. She got on the horn to RNC headquarters and told the party brass, "Get Dewey a message and get him on message now, or we'll lose this thing!"
The party brass looked at the polling and decided she was mistaken. History falls on such minor moments.
Truman went to bed thinking he might have lost but woke up refreshed the next morning as a winner. He grabbed a newspaper with the headline "Dewey Defeats Truman" and had himself photographed with it. On the radio he did a dead-on impersonation of H. V. Kaltenborn, the radio analyst who spent the previous evening telling his audience that Dewey's victorious votes would arrive within a few minutes.
Truman had the time of his life. Then came Korea.
Wow that’s a piece of history very very few know.
So she saw that he wise giving powerful speeches on this rail tour?
I assume the crowds were much much bigger bite the end.
Strong taking the South must have hurt Dewey alot.
Do I have no idea who won the South back then regularly
In those days the Solid South voted Democrat due to memories of the "Late Unpleasantness Between the States." Only blacks in the south voted Republican when they were allowed to vote. The Klan did its best to keep that from happening.
Dewey blew it because he believed the polls. Because the pollsters stopped polling before Truman's tour by train, the pollsters completely missed Truman's late surge from behind. Dewey worked his campaign via radio while Truman went to the people. That made the difference.
With all the criticism aimed to Wallace and Thurmond, Truman escaped and looked like a man of the "sensible center." Bill Clinton would call it "triangulation."
Wow.
Do you think he should have let MacArthur use nukes against China?
I know you were probably just barely a teen at the time but sometimes when you are alive during something you have a better grasp of the reality of the situation.
I was 12 when Reagan was elected and I remember a lot of it. Great time to be a kid
Thanks in advance
I’ll get back to you in an hour. You have asked a profound question.
The VP spot on his ticket, maybe?
Well covered recall including HST’s imitation of HV Kaltenborn What you missed though, was The Chicago Tribune’s owner Col McCormick attacking what was called the “Me too Republicans”
THAT is a super post! Is it quoted from a book, one you’ve written perhaps?
He is vile. His comments about women are disgusting.
McCormick’s attack led to the Goldwater candidacy 16 years later.
Not quoted from a book unless I decide to write one. But you’re right that I love history.
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