Posted on 04/12/2020 8:50:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I keep reading about this herd immunity but we will never get that all hiding at home.
We did the month.
It’s time to live again
China stifles coronavirus research in apparent bid to control narrative, analysts say
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-coronavirus-research-block-narrative-documents
Agreed.
Yup,
Touch and Go
There for a While,
Let’s get Back to
WORK PEOPLE!
Anyone wondering why COVID-19 spread like wildfire in Wusan then the world but spared China’s other urban and population centers. China does not report reliable statistics but it would have been impossible to hide NYC/North Jersey outbreaks. Somehow, someway most of the Chinese population has achieved “herd immunity” without suffering widespread outbreaks. This could have been the result of exposure to multiple subtypes of coronavirus which resulted in cross immunity to COVID-19. But why not in Wusan from where the virus spread to the world? It is too terrible to think but if you were weaponizing a virus, you would have to ensure immunity in most of your own population before deploying.
“...herd immunity...”
When the unimpacted, “herd” comes out of hiding, with their varied and selective co-morbidities, the infections and deaths will be YUGE, especially if the virus mutates, which they are prone to do.
Great interview.
So much sense.
I keep reading about this herd immunity but we will never get that all hiding at home.
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You have pointed out the fatal flaw in this supposed expert’s argument. In a nutshell he said:
It’s a crisis.
It’s over.
Well he is half right. We have a population of about 330,000,000. We have identified 525,000 people who are infected. We know some people have very minor symptoms and never get counted. So the 525,000 understates the size of “the herd”.
So go up by a factor of 100 to 52,500,000 and you still don’t have herd immunity. That takes about 60% of 330,000,000 or a little under 200,000,000 cases.
The herd, safe treatments and vaccines will eventually save us but to claim it’s over is just silly and very unprofessional.
Then some of us will die.
I’m a 51 year old (52 in May) fat ####. I’m in the co-morbidity department for sure.
My life is NOT WORTH the entire country of America collapsing financially and other ways.
No one’s is.
Those in the danger group can choose to stay home or maybe by then the drug that is helping everyone will be very available to everyone.
People die.
Sometimes lots.
If we took death counts into consideration during WWII history would be quite different.
Time to dance
It seems like coronavirus is behaving much like Chickenpox. Get it when you’re young, it will be a mild disease or you might not even notice it.
Get it when you are old, or especially if you are old and immune-compromised, and its much more dangerous.
In which case, its like many common viruses we have in this world.
Really? Tell that to Dr. Fauci.
“I keep reading about this herd immunity but we will never get that all hiding at home.”
that is 100% correct!
and no, the C-19 epidemic isn’t over, but just getting started because of all of this “cowering in place” ...
Herd immunity is absolutely necessary for the C-19 contagion to burn itself out, but you won’t get that by having lockdowns because in fact lockdowns prevent herd immunity from occurring, and it doesn’t matter if the lockdown is a month or six months because the same exact thing will happen regardless of the length of lockdown when the un-lockdown occurs, namely a whole slew of new C-19 cases are going to occur, and that is completely unavoidable ... There’s no rocket science here, and public policy makers know all of the above, and their claim has always been that the lockdown was *ONLY* to avoid the unknown possibility of the medical system being overwhelmed by too many cases all at once.
President Trump’s dilemma (”the hardest decision I’ll ever have to make in my life”) is to how to prepare the public
for this inevitable new wave of illness and new wave of deaths.
However, if there’s a cheap, safe, effective and universally available cure in the early stages of C-19 infection as is now known to be the case with HCQ/antibiotic/zinc, then there is indeed a whole new ballgame, namely it doesn’t matter how many will get sick when the un-lockdown occurs, because very few will die due to the treatment, and we can therefore safely and quickly build herd immunity, and C-19 will burn itself out as it can no longer be spread once a certain threshold of immune people is reached ...
So, i believe that what is really going to drive the “reopening” date is having enough HCQ/antibiotic/zinc supplies across the nation to treat the hundreds of thousands of new (symptomatic) cases AS SOON AS THEY OCCUR when the nation reopens for business, because then lots of people getting sick from this disease won’t be that big of a deal if they can be effectively treated in the EARLY STAGES of the illness ... but if we do NOT have those curative supplies in place in sufficient quantities across our nation, then all hell would break lose politically if large numbers of people die as a result of the un-lockdown ...
[BTW, the Dems and fake stream enemedia know all of the above, which is why they’ve been desperately trying to discredit this treatment ... they are desperately hoping that President Trump will be put into a lose-lose situation by reopening the economy and having additions scores die that they can claim is his fault ... however, with an actual cure, none of that will happen and the economy can safely be reopened ... fortunately, the above treatment has practically become the standard of treatment in ERs and ICUs around the nation, and practically no one as far as i can tell believe the fairy tales manufactured by the fake stream media about the HCQ/antibiotic/zinc treatment]
RE: It seems like coronavirus is behaving much like Chickenpox. Get it when you’re young, it will be a mild disease or you might not even notice it.
That is essentially what this Professor in this interview advocates — LET THE YOUNG BE EXPOSED AND PROTECT THE OLD AND VULNERABLE ( those with existing pre-conditions ).
Thanks for posting this.
You nailed it with the treatment.
We don’t cringe in terror anymore at bacterial throat infections even if they are rampant because we won’t die from them. We’ll be treated.
Sucks to get but beats death.
If it becomes “you’ve got the Coronavirus. Stay home 2 weeks and take this” then life gets back to semi normal pretty quickly.
That’s a simplification I guess.
but i’m a simple guy :)
Well that’s the ridiculous thing about present political/government approach to coronavirus. Its not even a black/white choice of “old people die, or the economy is destroyed.” We can keep dp0622 around AND have a fully-functioning economy.
It seems the correct choice for government is - old/immune-compromised people need strict precautions, avoid contact with groups. Wear masks in public. Keep hospitals and especially rehab/Senior living places on high alert. Test widely, particularly among these groups. As long as you are not immobile and can care for yourself - do that and you will very likely be fine even if economy is fully re-opened.
I’m hearing that Texas is opening tomorrow, I think maybe in phases- not everything all at once.
Biological or Darwinian fact of life. Throughout time natural phenomena such as virus pandemics occur through the herds. They cull the weak and the vulnerable so the survivors, given a normal rate of procreation, propagate healthier, younger and more vigorous “herds”. Given the amount of birth control, abortion, low birth rates, the modern debilitating habits of many, and the aging of the human population in the West and America, not too surprised that this pandemic has occurred.
Yeah that’s true.
I’ve been really lucky with the extra weight.
No diabetes, edema, high blood pressure, etc.
God has been good to me but I have started using this horrible quarantine to get in better shape.
I need to lose IDEALLY...70 pounds.
i think the reason guys I know who are my size that have so many co morbid conditions is because they were always overweight and mostly sedentary.
I am still living off of the boxing years in my 20s and hitting the bag in my 30s.
But at soon to be 52, it’s time to get rid of it!!
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