Posted on 04/12/2020 8:50:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Agreed.
A lot of us will die.
I have 3 co-morbidities, at 70.
I want to die with my either my AR-10 (7.62x51) or Beowulf AR-50 (425g HPs) barrels’ melting at the filthy US and Chicom enemy.
Time to party while we die in battle for America.
I got your back.
There are no facts about what happened in China.
There are myths, rumors, propaganda, lies, and nonsense.
As for actual valid information, it is a Unicorn hunt and you haven’t caught one.
Well I’d like to die doing 130 in my Dodge Challenger but I could drive you into battle :)
We’d make a good pair :)
Down to half our peak deaths in Louisiana. Light at the end of the tunnel is fast approaching.
Yep. Everyone should be responsible for their own health. Even the vulnerable ones - they should take every precaution possible.
First line of defense: caloric intake. Eat good food in the right amounts. You will make it!
I’ve got a 2019 707hp Jeep Grand Cherokee HEMI V8, and we’d make a helluva pair of warriors, for as long as we’d last..
middle February and Fauci’s answers are mostly about China. doesn’t seem at all concerned about US. says not a chance a Chinese-style Wuhan lockdown would happen in US. says, in fact, “it would never happen”:
17 Feb Updated 18 Feb: USA Today: ‘Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low’
Q. Is this a pandemic?
Fauci. The World Health Organization is not declaring this a global pandemic, because there isn’t a lot of sustained transmission throughout the world. We’re really kind of at that brink. If China can contain their outbreak much better than they are and prevent wide distribution, we could avoid a global pandemic. If they don’t, we’re gonna have a global pandemic. We’re teetering right on the line of what’s going to happen...
Q. Could there be a lot of cases in the U.S. that we don’t know about?
Fauci. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) is trying to find this out. Are there under-the-radar infections in this country that have gotten in before we did the airport funneling and things? They’re doing a sort of a sentinel surveillance in five cities —- New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and Chicago — of people who come into clinics with flu-like symptoms but who don’t test positive for the flu...
Q. Who is at greatest risk?
Fauci. It’s almost identical to what we’re seeing with influenza. If you’re elderly, have chronic lung disease, congestive heart failure, diabetes, obesity — all of that makes you much more likely to have complications, if not death...
Q. How confident are you that the Chinese are doing what needs to be done?
Fauci. They’re doing things that have completely broken the paradigm of how you respond. They have been, in a draconian way, shutting down everything. They have locked down 50 million people, including the entire 11 million-person city of Wuhan. They will not allow anyone into Beijing unless they have a 14-day quarantine. They’re essentially locking people who test positive in their houses. I mean, they’re doing things that are almost unheard of in the annals of public health...
Q. That would never happen here, would it? Locking down 50 million people?
***Fauci. No, not a chance. It would never happen...
Q. Bottom line, how worried should people in America be?
Fauci. The risk of coronavirus in this country is still relatively low, but, as I said about the possibility of emerging into a pandemic, this could change. As of today, on the 17th of February, the risk is really relatively low. But we, the public health officials, have to take this seriously enough to be prepared for it changing and there being a pandemic.
Q. Is the seasonal flu a bigger concern?
Fauci. We are right now in the middle of an influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave. We have more kids dying of flu this year, at this time, than in the last decade or more. Then it went down, and now we’re having a second wave of H1N1 flu again, which is particularly serious in children. So right now, at the same time people are worrying about going to a Chinese restaurant, the threat is that what we have in this country, we’re having a pretty bad influenza season, particularly dangerous for our children.
Q. How can you protect yourself against both flu and coronavirus?
Fauci. Do what we tell you to do all the time. Wash your hands as frequently as you can. Stay away from crowded places where people are coughing and sneezing. If, in fact you are coughing and sneezing, cover your cough. All the things that we say each year. That’s the thing we should be doing right now. But the danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low.
Q. What about the conspiracy theories involving a bioweapons lab near Wuhan?
Fauci. There isn’t a bioweapons lab in Wuhan. There’s a biological containment that’s studying countermeasures against natural outbreak. Whenever you have a virus that you know has been studied in a lab, and virtually every virus is studied in a lab, and there’s an outbreak of a new virus, there’s always the suspicion that something either accidentally or deliberately was released. So, I mean, I can’t say absolutely that’s not the case. It is extremely unlikely that that’s the case, but you can find out if it is or not. And there are people who are actually looking at that right now. So I think we’re going to get some sort of an answer about that...
Q. We see everyone walking around in masks. Do they work?
Fauci. A mask is much more appropriate for someone who is infected and you’re trying to prevent them from infecting other people than it is in protecting you against infection. If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store, the leakage around that doesn’t really do much to protect you. And for example, people start saying, should I start wearing a mask? Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/17/new-coronavirus-what-dont-we-know-dr-anthony-fauci-q-a-opinion/4790996002/
is this the kind of stuff he was telling President Trump at this time?
Does the likelihood of a second wave increase with a longer lock down period? The Dems would love a second wave to hit in Sept or October.
We have heard about many outbreaks and deaths at nursing homes. Have there been similar outbreaks and deaths at retirement communities that are populated by elderly, but not sick, people?
first:
8 Apr: Real Clear Politics: Dr. Birx: Unlike Some Countries, “If Someone Dies With COVID-19 We Are Counting That As A COVID-19 Death
by Tim Hains
At Tuesday’s White House coronavirus press conference, task force member Dr. Deborah Birx said that while some countries are reporting coronavirus fatality numbers differently, in the U.S. you are counted as a victim of the pandemic if you die while testing positive for the virus, even if something else causes your death.
DR. DEBORAH BIRX: So, I think in this country we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality... There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/08/dr_birx_unlike_some_countries_if_someone_dies_with_covid-19_we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html
9 Apr: Forbes: A Fox News Conspiracy — Are Coronavirus Death Numbers Inflated? — Attacked By Fauci, Birx
by Jack Brewster (formmerly with Time, Newsweek, the New York Daily News and VICE News)
Topline: A new conspiracy theory—growing in particular on Fox News—that official coronavirus death toll numbers are padded with people who would’ve died anyway from preexisting conditions has some of the nation’s top health officials, including White House coronavirus task force members Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, speaking out to debunk it...
“Well, it seems entirely possible that doctors are classifying conventional pneumonia deaths as COVID-19 deaths,” (Tucker) Carlson said on his talk show Tuesday, adding “that would mean this epidemic is being credited for thousands of deaths that would have occurred if the virus never appeared here” (he also claimed there are “reasons” some may “seek an inaccurate death count”)...
Birx addressed this directly at the White House briefing Wednesday, saying that even though the virus is “particularly damaging” for people with preexisting conditions, their “underlying condition did not cause [their death]” — the coronavirus did.
Fauci, following up on Birx’s comments, was more critical of conspiracy theories in general: “You will always have conspiracy theories when you have a very challenging public health crises. They are nothing but distractions.”...
At the same time, officials at the Centers for Disease Control say the death toll is actually being underreported due to lack of testing...
Key background: On his show, Carlson pointed to Centers for Disease Control data showing that casualties from pneumonia are down. “For the last few weeks, that [pneumonia] number has come in far lower than at the same moment in previous years. How could that be?” Carlson said. But Aaron Blake of the Washington Post noted that the CDC data shows the number of pneumonia deaths is down only slightly, and those figures will not be complete for months.
***Big number: 37%. That’s the percentage of Fox News viewers who, according to a recent survey from Pew Research, said they believed COVID-19 came about naturally rather than in a laboratory, suggesting the media outlet you watch may be having a major effect on how you understand the virus
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/04/09/a-fox-news-conspiracy-are-coronavirus-death-numbers-inflated-attacked-by-fauci-birx/#584dcda116af
***Fauci hasn’t yet ruled out the Lab!
17 Feb Updated 18 Feb: USA Today: ‘Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low’
Q. What about the conspiracy theories involving a bioweapons lab near Wuhan?
Fauci. There isn’t a bioweapons lab in Wuhan. There’s a biological containment that’s studying countermeasures against natural outbreak. Whenever you have a virus that you know has been studied in a lab, and virtually every virus is studied in a lab, and there’s an outbreak of a new virus, there’s always the suspicion that something either accidentally or deliberately was released. So, I mean, I can’t say absolutely that’s not the case. It is extremely unlikely that that’s the case, but you can find out if it is or not. And there are people who are actually looking at that right now. So I think we’re going to get some sort of an answer about that.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/17/new-coronavirus-what-dont-we-know-dr-anthony-fauci-q-a-opinion/4790996002/
so what is the Brewster Forbes’ article about - other than an attack on Fox/Trump supporters?
The only person i know that has it at about 50+ got it working in a nursing home and has mild symptoms. yes let it go now and my prayer is that everyone has it and is now immune. “FU to the media, medical socalled scientists”
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I’m sure more than just Republicans want the economy to get back on track. enough of following Fauci & the FakeNewsMSM:
10 Apr: Washington Examiner: Republican pressure on Trump to reopen the economy grows
by David M. Drucker
“Yes, the virus is going to continue to exist. But we have to get our economy going,” Rep. Chip Roy told the Washington Examiner on Thursday. The Texas Republican, an early proponent of limiting the economic shutdown, estimates based on conversations with business owners that “we probably have two or three weeks at most” to begin transitioning back to normal if the country is to have any chance for quick rebound.
On Thursday, the Republican-friendly group Committee to Unleash Prosperity held a private conference call with GOP insiders to advocate that policymakers start giving the economic challenges posed by the coronavirus the same level of attention as health concerns. The call was led by conservative economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore, who is a Washington Examiner columnist, plus Republican businessman and donor John Catsimatidis and one-time GOP presidential candidate Steve Forbes, according to a copy of the invitation.
“People want the economy to reopen soon. That’s the bottom line,” said a Republican executive who joined the conference call. Trump has heard directly from many who share this view. This week, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Trump’s chief economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, floated the possibility of reopening the economy in May, with the White House announcing the creation of a working group that will focus exclusively on that task.
On the advice of Anthony Fauci and other government medical advisers, Trump has encouraged the public to practice aggressive social distancing through the end of April to reduce coronavirus infections...
Staggering layoffs across most industries have ensued, with about 17 million people filing for unemployment insurance over the past three weeks. Millions more are expected to join them...
But as the downturn worsens, threatening to close thousands of businesses permanently regardless of government action, some Republicans are questioning whether the “cure” for the pandemic is “worse than the disease.” After Vice President Mike Pence said earlier this week that statistics show the rate of COVID-19 diagnoses stabilizing, an assessment shared by Deborah Birx, Republican demands for the Trump administration to rethink its strategy are growing louder.
“The economic damage far exceeds the healthcare benefits of the current virus containment strategy. There are sectors of the economy that are just being devastated,” said Peter Leidel, a Republican donor and energy executive who has been making this case to every GOP lawmaker with whom he has a relationship. “Many businesses will never reopen despite all of the money coming from the CARES Act.”...
But influential conservative media figures, some who have Trump’s ear, are skeptical that the measures his administration has taken to arrest the pandemic are necessary. Some, like talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, have expressed this view from the beginning. Others are questioning White House policy after the most dire models for predicted coronavirus infections, and deaths, failed to pan out...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/republican-pressure-on-trump-to-reopen-the-economy-grows
I think we will find out this is a 100 times more infectious than we thought and a 1000 times less deadly.
Did Mark Levin interview Wittkowski a few days ago?
Perhaps in major cities with international airports. Over a million Chinese flew in and helped us with that.
Now the geography of the US comes into play. Rural areas... are others beginning to see a rise? But, it’s bitter clinger country, so no news coverage.
Yes, Mark Levin interviewed him on Friday. Very good interview and worth listening to his podcast for.
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