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Was Edward the Black Prince really a nasty piece of work?
BBC ^ | 7 July 2014 | unattributed

Posted on 05/14/2020 12:18:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

Woah, it’s Baldric.


21 posted on 05/14/2020 1:44:47 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Jim W N

No, but if you have ever seen the movie “A Knight’s Tale”, Edward the Black Prince is the “mystery knight” who the main character beats in a joust, and who turns out to be a prince of England. He was a notable commander in the Hundred Year’s War.


22 posted on 05/14/2020 1:47:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Is “A Knight’s Tale” a good movie?

How could there have been something called “The Hundred Years War”? I
have formed a not-so-good opinion over the years about the history of English Officers. Did their well-known smug aloofness and condescending attitude have anything to do with that war lasting so long?


23 posted on 05/14/2020 2:24:40 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I went to school with his cousin Hairyric.

24 posted on 05/14/2020 2:52:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Jim W N

It took a long while to figure out that Kyd (who died in prison) had written “The Spanish Tragedy”, which is, uh, tragic.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Edward+the+III,+Shakespeare&tbm=vid


25 posted on 05/14/2020 2:56:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

26 posted on 05/14/2020 3:00:22 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Jim W N

Well, I think it’s a pretty good movie, nothing much of substance really but a fun little romantic comedy dressed up with knights and swordfights and such. The real reason to watch it is Paul Bettany’s depiction of Geoffrey Chaucer as a penniless gambling-addict con artist with a silver tongue.

“How could there have been something called “The Hundred Years War””

Well, it was really a series of wars, but since they were all between England and France, and all over basically the same thing, the historians just lump them all together.

Why they lasted so long? Well, I think it came down to the difficulty of either side winning a decisive victory. They couldn’t just march their armies on the enemy capital, they had to ferry them across the Channel, take a foothold, then to supply their armies they had to pillage the countryside and unfortified towns. Only then could they hope to mount sieges deeper into enemy territory, and by that time, the enemy could have rallied their nobles and hired mercenaries to raise an army to beat them back. The engagements tended to go on for a few years like that until the armies met in a large battle, then they would sign a treaty after that granting some concessions to the victor, but the whole process would repeat again soon enough because the underlying cause for the wars (the King of England having a legitimate claim to the throne of France) was not resolved.


27 posted on 05/14/2020 3:07:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

It’s Tony! :^)


28 posted on 05/14/2020 3:09:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Jim W N
Just to be confusing, the HYW lasted more then a hundred years. So there.
The Hundred Years War was a series of conflicts from 1337 to 1453, waged between the House of Plantagenet, rulers of England and the French House of Valois, over the right to rule the Kingdom of France. Each side drew many allies into the war. [wikiwackypedia]

29 posted on 05/14/2020 3:11:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Here’s a book on the Hundred Years War by a non-professional historian, the late and well-regarded Barbara Tuchman:

http://www.google.com/search?q=a+distant+mirror+the+calamitous


30 posted on 05/14/2020 3:12:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Boogieman
One of the understories in the KT is the continuous appearance of a pack of spirited and pretty and very much non noble girls who show up with their own steeds. They are 13th century groupies. Instead of degenerate rock musicians they try and catch the eye of a favorite knight for some romance. These girls really existed. Some blue nosed cleric blamed them for the Black Plague, saying their unwomanly behavior (they were country girls and they didn't ride side saddle, and their sexual high junks. Clerics have truly given the Almighty a bad name for all the harmless things they have inveigled against.
31 posted on 05/14/2020 6:04:15 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: Saint Athanasius

All my family records were destroyed by the Nazis. I once saw a pic of my great-gandparents.


32 posted on 05/15/2020 4:25:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: SunkenCiv
Just to be confusing, the HYW lasted more than a hundred years.

116, to be exact, which they weren't. During which there were two peaces, one of nine years, the other of 26. Think of it, a hundred-year war, a third of which consisted of peace, prosperity...and the Black Plague...

High on my list of Times It Sucked To Be Alive And Not For Very Long.

33 posted on 05/15/2020 4:36:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: pabianice

I am so sorry. Words can´t express my sorrowful for you and your family.


34 posted on 05/15/2020 8:10:01 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Billthedrill

LOLOL!


35 posted on 05/15/2020 10:55:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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