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More Humans Are Growing an Extra Artery in Our Arms, Showing We're Still Evolving
www.sciencealert.com ^ | 9 OCTOBER 2020 | MIKE MCRAE

Posted on 10/09/2020 11:03:16 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Buckeye McFrog
A lot of those buildings were constructed that way to make them more efficient at using heat in cold weather. Hot air rises. The lower the ceiling height the warmer the room will stay.
41 posted on 10/09/2020 11:41:20 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Interesting. One of my other random thoughts is that viruses are and have been essential in transferring genetic changes across human populations. This may already be a known thing. I’m a techie, not a geneticist dammit. :)


42 posted on 10/09/2020 11:43:29 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

I have thought that since I was a preteen and refer to it as “evolition” as opposed to “evolution”. I believe the field of epigenetics is coming around to this as well.


43 posted on 10/09/2020 11:44:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What I want to know is why folks in the Old Testament lived for hundreds and hundreds of years and today seems that eighty years is the norm.


44 posted on 10/09/2020 11:46:36 AM PDT by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/zNLpfEDliV0)
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To: Red Badger

Of course this is not an example of evolution. It’s not even an example of natural selection.

It’s an interesting observation that 1) needs to be defined clearly and validated and the 2) the reason for it can be studied.

I would guess if real it has to do with nutrition, similar to our being taller than previous generations (or fatter).


45 posted on 10/09/2020 11:47:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I’ve noticed there seems to be a lot more left handed people than there used to be......................


46 posted on 10/09/2020 11:48:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Salvavida

Simply more variation within species.

Certainly not creating a new one.


47 posted on 10/09/2020 11:49:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That is amazing, and 1870 is not long ago at all when you consider how far back humans date. Makes me wonder if the Egyptians from 5,000 years ago were a foot tall lol lol


48 posted on 10/09/2020 11:50:53 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Red Badger

In a pig’s artery.

That was bad.

5.56mm


49 posted on 10/09/2020 11:52:16 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: Texas resident

That’s incredible, I think if we could go back in time and see that live we would be utterly shocked how small people were. It really shows how much nutrition and disease can hinder growth


50 posted on 10/09/2020 11:52:28 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Red Badger

Notice also how the headline is false, i.e. a lie.

The article does not say humans are growing a new artery. It says this artery is lost over time in childhood but now seems to be lasting longer than previously observed.

It’s similar to if baby teeth were lost at a slightly older age.


51 posted on 10/09/2020 11:53:10 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Red Badger

If the DNA does not account for the ‘extra’ artery, then, it’s not evolution.

If the artery is not inherited by all the generations that follow those individuals who have it, then, it’s not evolution. High intelligence is not necessarily inherited by the generations that follow those intelligent humans.

Ugliness is not necessarily inherited either, and neither is beauty.


52 posted on 10/09/2020 11:55:58 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Red Badger

The extra artery is used to keep the middle finger erect.


53 posted on 10/09/2020 11:59:11 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: StolarStorm

“Not enough generations for natural selection to create this change.”

Yes. These articles are nonsense (not the observations about the artery per se).

And this crap is from SCIENCE publications for the lay readership, ostensibly articles which should be scientifically valid but aren’t.


54 posted on 10/09/2020 11:59:52 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SpaceBar

“This is a genetic mutation not ‘evolution’ but labeled as such to get everyone’s dander up.”

What evidence is there this is a genetic mutation?


55 posted on 10/09/2020 12:01:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Sure would. That is micro.

There is a reason Eskimos have an average 500 cholesterol count.


56 posted on 10/09/2020 12:01:30 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Red Badger

This is not “evolution”. This is “selection”, which sometimes is “natural selection”

The artery exists, and it sometimes doesn’t go away. It used to be that it went away almost all the time, but now for an unknown reason, people are inheriting genes that keep it around.

Could be simple random chance. Could be there is something about the set of genes involved that are also giving some breeding advantage. Or it could simply be that this has been coming for a long time, but we finally got enough people with it that we hit a tipping point.

Remember, EVOLUTION is when something mutates in a way we think is “better”. Selection is when that mutation gains some advantage, so that it is propagated. Most of what people describe as evolution is simple selection.


57 posted on 10/09/2020 12:02:29 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Salvavida

Micro evolution is demonstrable. Always has been.


As long as this is understood to be gene expression of genetic information already existing.


58 posted on 10/09/2020 12:02:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger
We are not growing another artery. We are not losing one we had already.

Big difference.

It is like the enzyme we now keep to allow us to digest milk as adults. It is not new, it just does not switch off.

The body gets rid of things that are no longer being used. If they are still in use they are kept.

59 posted on 10/09/2020 12:03:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Red Badger
Researchers from Flinders University and the University of Adelaide in Australia have noticed an artery that temporarily runs down the centre of our forearms while we're still in the womb isn't vanishing as often as it used to.

Wouldn't this be more-properly described as an example of devolution?

If you believe in neoteny, that is.

Regards,

60 posted on 10/09/2020 12:03:31 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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