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About 150 U.S. Cadillac Dealers to Exit Brand, Rather Than Sell Electric Cars
Wall Street Journal ^ | 12-04-2020 | Mike Colias

Posted on 12/04/2020 2:19:36 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: alternatives?

Cadillac made so many disasters back then, tarnished their image till this day

I believe Oldsmobile had a diesel out as well that sucked.


61 posted on 12/04/2020 3:54:25 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: nascarnation

Here in the PNW, yes, lesbians drive Subarus. But so does everyone else, including conservatives in eastern WA.


62 posted on 12/04/2020 3:59:51 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: alternatives?

Cimarron was probably Cadillac’s nadir. A rebadged Chevy Cavalier.


63 posted on 12/04/2020 4:01:36 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Born to Conserve

“Driving cars will not be recognizable in five years. All new cars will be electric and autonomous. “

Peter Lutz, ex GM CEO said this 2 years ago in a meeting.


64 posted on 12/04/2020 4:02:05 PM PST by setter
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To: originalbuckeye

Doesn’t matter. Musk has said there isn’t near enough electricity in the grid to support too many electric cars anyway.
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With the Hiden/Ho team going after Coal, Oil and nuclear plants, we well have often rotating blackouts.

All the tech for wind and solar (if it actually worked - it doesn’t) comes from China.


65 posted on 12/04/2020 4:02:33 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: Born to Conserve
Try buying a Ford Fiesta ST (like mine), a Honda Civic Type R, or Subaru WRX STI without a manual.
66 posted on 12/04/2020 4:06:37 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Starcitizen

Are you in CA? A friend posted a picture of she had her husband enjoying a glass of wine indoors, by a camp light. Looked like rolling blackouts to me.


67 posted on 12/04/2020 4:06:45 PM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nukes? Look at the idiocy of Germany and California, for starters. Shutting them down. Sure this idiocy will spread. Has their been any nuke plants built in the last, say 20 years?


68 posted on 12/04/2020 4:06:51 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: MinorityRepublican
"We need to build 20 new nuclear power plants each year for the next 10 years if we are serious about transitioning to EVs.

There, fixed it for you.

69 posted on 12/04/2020 4:08:08 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: originalbuckeye

No, I’m sure our Leftist overlords will nix nuclear power. I’m thinking they figure if only those who have the power (in the country) are allowed to have vehicles, then there will be enough power for THEM to drive around. It’s we, the working stiffs, who won’t have the ‘luxury’ of traveling, etc. They are already trying this out with their ‘Covid’ rules that don’t apply to them.

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Already the Green New Deal has depopulation of the heartland, with people forced to live in crime-infected Democrat city hellholes, fully dependent on public transportation, bicycles and walking for mobility.


70 posted on 12/04/2020 4:11:16 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: steve86

Fewer manuals than electrics sold, LAST YEAR. If you think finding a car in a pile of dregs is good, you are easy to please.


71 posted on 12/04/2020 4:13:52 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: DarrellZero

Friends bought a Caddie SUV a few years ago. It was so beset with problems that they sought relief under the Florida “Lemon Law” and return the POS for a full refund. Well, they missed the statutory deadline by a few days and were forced sell the junk in less than a year (IIRC), and many repairs, after purchase.


72 posted on 12/04/2020 4:14:38 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: originalbuckeye

Are you in CA? A friend posted a picture of she had her husband enjoying a glass of wine indoors, by a camp light. Looked like rolling blackouts to me.

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No, the Bay Area college I teach remotely at has my students claiming blackout status. We get emails from admin to excuse students living in certain areas on an increasing basis.

Hell, where I’m at, the only time we get brown-outs is during the passage of a typhoon (shut down to save the live grid from wind damage)


73 posted on 12/04/2020 4:17:55 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: DarrellZero

I have a 2016 ATS with 50,000 miles. I love it. No problems. Its fun to drive and handles exceptionally well in the snow. I would absolutely buy another Cadillac.


74 posted on 12/04/2020 5:04:46 PM PST by nycteacher
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To: Seruzawa

Northstar. Fine thread head bolts in an aluminum block. The only real did is timecerts. Mostly not worth it.


75 posted on 12/04/2020 5:11:55 PM PST by ebshumidors ( )
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To: ebshumidors

Only real fix.


76 posted on 12/04/2020 5:15:41 PM PST by ebshumidors ( )
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To: Seruzawa

No, it was their mid 90s Sienna mini-van. Started off good, but after a couple of years, the engine sludged up terribly and blew HUGE clouds of blue smoke when you started it. It wasn’t so bad after it got running and warmed up.

Lots of owners had the same problem and Toyota never owned up to an endemic problem.

We sold it privately and the buyers came back a few weeks later and claimed we had changed the transmission out for unknown reasons. The VIN numbers apparently didn’t match. We had never had it in the shop for any transmission problems, so that was very weird. We never did figure that out and the buyers dropped it. The funny thing is they never came back to us to the big cloud of blue smoke upon starting.

So FOUR European POSes and ONE Japanese POS. We switched to Ford after that (mid 90s Explorer, our first SUV) and had great luck with Ford until our kids’ Escapes turned into MAJOR POSes around 2013.

Our older daughter gave up on all those brands and bought a new Subaru in early 2020 and loves it so far. The other two kids are still driving their Escapes. The 2017 Escape quit running one day on the freeway and had a blown transmission at about 60k. At least that was covered under warranty. The 2013 Escape had a varnished automatic transmission valve body and stopped shifting properly. They were going to charge my daughter $1,700 to fix it so I got on the phone and got it down to $700 which I thought was still outrageous because I know she didn’t abuse it or tow anything.


77 posted on 12/04/2020 5:18:57 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: max americana

Lafayette
Down the road from Purdue
Opened in 1989 so they’ve been around a while.


78 posted on 12/04/2020 5:19:31 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: originalbuckeye

” Musk has said there isn’t near enough electricity in the grid to support too many electric cars anyway.”

Could you show us that quote?

The average US grid load is half peak in the day time.
Night average is half day average.


79 posted on 12/04/2020 5:22:33 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: max americana

We have our second Subaru. If we get the itch to buy another new car, it would be another Subaru. But we just might keep it until the wheels fall off, which will be never.

We also own a 2018 F150. I’d love to get rid of that POS. Very annoying electronics and rides quite rough.


80 posted on 12/04/2020 5:28:15 PM PST by redfreedom
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