Posted on 03/26/2021 12:24:33 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Ignore the n00b trolls :-)
Amazing to see the n00bs getting away with pushing bull spit....
A new lab study shows troubling signs that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s COVID-19 shots could be far less effective against the variant first found in South Africa
https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-modernas-covid-19-shots-174512012.html
On the bright side, Kung Flu has defeated the old flu in a 3rd round knockout so that you'll still only have to take one shot. /s That is if widespread vaccinations in a pandemic don't help produce too many variants too quickly.
The same people who told us “Fifteen days to flatten the curve.”
Like I should trust the government on anything for what reason?
At least it’s not zombies
“But the vaccination program pretty much erradicated wild measles transmission in the US anyway, by reducing transmission below replacement rates (like a population with a tiny birth rate dies out over time).”
Would you agree that the viruses that we need to be concerned about are the ones which ultimately cause death, long term illness, or serious side effects?
The viruses that we survive generally make is stronger.
Deaths from measles were already down 90-95% when the measles vaccine was introduced (due to sanitation and nutrition). Look at any of the available trends. If sanitation and nutrition could eradicate measles, could it be fully eradicated through more intensive nutritional programs? It would seem so.
I bet at least half the vaccines deployed are placebos. After all, the whole population is now in a Phase 3 trial.
How do we explain the pictures (readily available if one looks...but I know you won’t) of world leaders getting a shot with the cap still on the syringe, or an empty syringe? New style of phlebotomy?
Why do you people want to cv19 Mengelevax the entire population when the cv19 Mengelevax carries so much long term risk, and so little relative benefit for most of the population?
Thanks, Jane, interesting to see how additional real life mutations impacted results.
“COVID-19 vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech appear significantly less effective against the coronavirus variant first found in South Africa, a lab study has suggested.
The percentage of protective antibodies that neutralized the variant - called B.1.351, which has been recorded in 20 US states - was 12.4 fold lower for Moderna’s COVID-19 shot than against the original coronavirus, and 10.3 fold lower for Pfizer’s, the study authors said.
This was a bigger drop than in previous lab studies testing the vaccines against manufactured forms of the variant, they said. For this study, the researchers used real forms of the variant taken from people who had caught the virus.”
They never said you couldn’t develop it after vaccination.
Much like the Bordetella shot for dogs. Most dogs won’t get kennel cough, those that do develop kennel cough it is much less severe.
The shots are proving that those who develop covid are far less likely to need hospitalization or die.
It is still early on, but we’ll see if that holds.
I don’t disagree with anything in this post.
I have said for a long time that we’re testing and sending people home to quarantine to see if they eventually need hospitalizations. There was/were no real instructions or research into outpatient prophylactics or even treatments.
We have never had such a blank spot in treatments before.
Tolerance Sucks Rocks :" I will personally bet they're milder infections, that is, a vaccinated person will have a partial immunity to them already."
I tend to agree with you, but I would like to see some medical reports, or studies to support that opinion.
Then again, I realize that my emotions are at work here, and want this to be true that any infection will be milder
Earlier reports, before the vaccinations became available, indicate that once someone had covid, then fully recovered,
and then reinfected again, they had severe and often fatal results from the re-infection.
There will be a constant source of new covid infections, including any new international mutations, as long as the Southern border remains open !
But if you are in a group of all vaccinated people, the probability of getting infected goes way down, because any two people who talk with each other will have something like over 99% immunity.
When you are in a group where you don’t know who has been vaccinated and who hasn’t, your immunity will not be that high but will be determined by how many in the group have been vaccinated. Impossible to determine mathematically.
This complements the mantra of far too many American women and former American "men":
"I'm scared, I'm ignorant, I'm angry"
"I'm scared, I'm ignorant, I'm angry"
"I'm scared, I'm ignorant, I'm angry"
Yup. all these perfectly normal and expected vaccine side effects get reported to increase the numbers against the vaccine to spread more fear and hysteria.
only 600,000 so far. People die of it. Others get very ill and spend a prolonged time in the ICU. Look at morbidity as well as mortality
There is no evidence any variant avoids the vaccine to date
Bullspit. I have seen young otherwise healthy people die of it and not prettily
not possible. there is no live or inactivated virus in the vaccine
I have trouble getting bitchute videos to open.
Meh. Adverse event reporting is fairly standard stuff, especially for new drugs. People will read into it what they will.
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