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At the Bottom of Lake Huron, an Ancient Mystery Materializes
[Sometimes] Scientific American ^ | June 1, 2021 | Aaron Martin

Posted on 06/06/2021 8:29:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: llevrok

Butter is better.


61 posted on 06/06/2021 12:24:14 PM PDT by mcshot (OMG! I'm now labeled as a cult member for being anti mask and a no vaxxer.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hi.

I’ll wager the Indians were obsequious with their obsidian.

Okay, I’ll go to the corner...

5.56mm


62 posted on 06/06/2021 12:33:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: crz

“The funny thing here is..they were but 40 to 50 miles from the largest deposit of iron ore in North America and did not know it.”

Because... Despite what the “impossible” narrative says... It was during the Bronze age before the Iron age. The Vikings were “floating” long before even the Bronze age, So were the Jomon in Japan, and the Oceanic peoples. Man first “Floated” across the Wallace line to Australia around 50,000 years ago. :)

Here is something you might find interesting about traces of Vikings in the northwest passage and even the west coast, Whole bunch of links about Vikings about half way down the page in the the “Last Viking” story:

http://www.spirasolaris.ca/index.html

But you are absolutely right, all they needed were axes and weapons to make and do anything they wanted. And I don’t even think sail canvas would have been needed, they had Native labor to row and furs in abundance. Everything they needed but the few tools were all there already. :)


63 posted on 06/06/2021 1:05:33 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: crz

I absolutely do believe there was a route to the gulf of Mexico also.along these rivers was where tons of copper pieces were found made of Great Lakes copper.


64 posted on 06/06/2021 1:14:42 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

As long as old scientists sit on the committees that decide grant funding, they will not tolerate research that will upend their careers.


65 posted on 06/06/2021 1:24:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Right on the nailhead... It all boils down to selfishness and egotism that is preventing very important discoveries.


66 posted on 06/06/2021 1:35:39 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
They would have had to tow extra boats from their home port “shipyards” and then would have had to portage/carry them to the lakes so it is impossible”.

The distinguished gentleman should read the chronicles of the Lewis and Clark expedition. They managed.

If the trade was a regular thing, then the boats/canoes/whatever, once built or otherwise gotten there, would have been making the back and forth trip regularly.

67 posted on 06/06/2021 2:00:14 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Absolutely and so did the natives long before...

That was one of the silliest things I have ever heard yet.


68 posted on 06/06/2021 2:15:04 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for a fascinating post!


69 posted on 06/06/2021 2:48:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Tallguy

“tragic boating accident” now I call that settled science!


70 posted on 06/06/2021 5:53:09 PM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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To: Openurmind

You don’t understand my sense of humor, I guess.

wy69


71 posted on 06/06/2021 8:15:12 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Monkey Face

Not surprised. Both made money.

wt69


72 posted on 06/06/2021 8:57:41 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

Maybe so, but I never saw any of it!

‘Face

;o]


73 posted on 06/07/2021 2:21:37 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Today, I release myself from previous versions of me that I created just to survive. ~~ Unknown ~~)
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The long-used route between Lake Ontario (which receives the river waters via the Falls at Niagara, a bit of an obstacle to navigation) to Georgian Bay (basically Lake Huron) involved portaging, which was a skill well known to shipbuilding cultures of Eurasia, because, y’know, they were completely afraid of getting out of sight of land (/rimshot). The Varangians went upriver from the Baltic and portaged their ships across to descend other rivers to reach the Black Sea, for example.

[snip] History

Samuel de Champlain was the first European [known] to travel the network of inland waters from Georgian Bay to the Bay of Quinte with the Hurons in 1615. It was this same route that would later be canalized and become the Trent–Severn Waterway. [/snip]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent%E2%80%93Severn_Waterway


74 posted on 06/07/2021 4:00:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Varda

Hey, headlines are supposed to grab attention, it’s just doin’ its job. :^)


75 posted on 06/07/2021 4:01:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: M Kehoe

:^) Colin Renfrew got his props early in his academic career via his work on the Aegean obsidian trade. Even today though, there are jokers who seem to think that the world’s waters were always obstacles to human movement, even though the British Isles are one of the most-invaded places on Earth.

https://www.google.com/search?q=colin+renfrew+obsidian+trade


76 posted on 06/07/2021 4:05:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blam

Well, human feet and watercraft, anyway. :^)


77 posted on 06/07/2021 4:08:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: smokingfrog

Thanks sf!


78 posted on 06/07/2021 4:08:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: colorado tanker; OftheOhio; Southside_Chicago_Republican; TXnMA; blam
My pleasure. TXnMA, flint-knapping is one term, what's the term for working with obsidian?

79 posted on 06/07/2021 4:12:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I guess there is no possibly of those pieces got out there on an ice float the broke or melted... And there was no distinct rock line up they mention. I think it’s just a fluke. They clearly just grabbed the top layer of sentiment. I would think 10k years they would be a touch deeper...


80 posted on 06/07/2021 4:14:11 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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