Posted on 09/14/2021 3:43:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
789 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis as of June 2021...15 were still in the hospital and 3 in the ICU...no reported deaths as of June:
https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/06/10/covid-vaccine-myocarditis-rates-061021
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
Around 7700 people die per day in the USA....~75% of USA population is vaccinated, so the potential for VAERS death reporting in the 5775 per day range if everyone reports a relative’s death. All have to be checked for a possible vaccine link (very rare).
I know. So many I can’t name a single one.
Can you?
I wasn’t trying to compare the two. Just stating a fact.
Well, I believe Hogwarts has released a double blind study.
There’s a Miami study from Tubbs & Crockett, et al.
There’s a Hawaiian study via Higgins & Thomas, et al.
Readily available, easy to get, free and non-fattening too!
What more could you ask for?
Oh, you want it to be thoroughly tested and long term safe too? That’s just being unreasonable! Now roll up your sleeve comrade!
Sure…and flu, pneumonia, heart attacks, and cancer have been cured!
What they are saying is after three months the level of antibodies in the bloodstream is so low that a "booster" shot is required. If a "vaccinated" patient is ill with a "breakthrough" case of COVID-19 without that booster, they will be counted "as if" they were not vaccinated.
It is a careful parsing of words that rationalizes gross distortion of the data.
"VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
It is incredible that, as much as I have pointed out the "limitations" of VAERS data, people keep using them for fearmongering against the vaccines.
Did you forget <\sarc>?
One can discuss probabilities but “rare” is essentially meaningless. 15,000 reported deaths (another 15,000 life threatening injuries) where this is likely under reported by a huge factor ranging from 10x to 100x, is hardly rare. That’s 150,000 to 1,500,000 possible deaths. Each one of these has an horrific story to go with it. Tragic. See OpenVAERS
This reply doesn’t even address the other 128,000 serious and chronic injuries documented in VAERS (again under reported).
I guess these adverse events are only “rare” if it doesn’t happen to the person that uses this word.
I don’t put “/s” when the post is dripping with /s.
Source?
Even with that none of the ghouls on the left running the show will even acknowledge what is going on until its too late.
“It is incredible”
Yep it is incredible, 15k reported deaths. And this is voluntary reports. so how many weren’t aware of this Vaers several months ago?
I am sure they vet the stories better then the afghan refugees so I would put the actual number way north of what the cdc reports to us. It is incredible that people ignore this sliver of data they allow us to see.
It’s rare. You like your steak well done, I’m guessing. 7⁸
Did you believe it when VAERS was reporting 200 plus deaths a year after the flu shot? That was the average number of deaths attributed to the vaccine. Has the VAERS website been lying to us since 1997...or is it only disreputable when it comes to the number of deaths reported following the Covid “vaccine?”
“That was the average number of deaths attributed to the vaccine.”
Retarded people believe that.
Because those reported deaths were 100% coincidental. VAERS themselves offer NO attribution to cause.
Re: 39 - I called a pro-vaccine FReeper on his use of war dead as props, and am doing the same for you.
So you’re saying the entire VAERS program is a sham and isn’t credible? It was established by the CDC BTW. If you don’t give the VAERS numbers any credibility, then how in hell can you believe the numbers the CDC is reporting as far as Covid deaths or immunizations given? Do they only lie sometimes? 🤣
“So you’re saying the entire VAERS program is a sham and isn’t credible?”
Correct.
They say so themselves.
“VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.”
4.5m divided by 8b =.00056, or rounded to six one hundredths of one percent. .06%. 6 out of 10,000. My math right?
We were given absolute numbers of deaths in the post I was responding to. Not percentages of the world population.
If I did the percentages for the numbers given by the other freepers, they would be infinitesimally small.
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