Posted on 12/19/2021 2:44:47 PM PST by Capt. Tom
I just cancelled a seven day cruise on NCL because of their change requiring masks on board.
Yes, you can get on a Royal Caribbean ship in Florida without vaccination. The article actually states that 6000+ passengers were on the ship, 95% of them were vaccinated. So 5% weren’t.
In December.
Knock me over with a feather.
Ping.
Good on ya.
I hope a lot of other people did the same.
Let’s hope but since lockdowns and mask mandates are political not medical who knows what the politicians will do
Cruises are a hotspot for all kinds of illnesses.
It should be zero. We were told the shots would prevent covid.
Oh, I just repeated what was in the article — I wondered about that, too.
Agree about cruises, although it does sound the best way to see Alaska.
I went on a Caribbean cruise (with husband) back in the 1980s. I had a super high stress job and the two people who had sat in my chair before me each ended up in the hospital within a year. I was headed there, weighed less than 90 lbs at 5’6 (female, 20s). One of my TV network reps could see I was about to end up like my predecessors and gave me the free cruise. (What a dear, and I will always be grateful.)
I gained 11 pounds in one week! It saved my health (and we really enjoyed the snorkelling at St. John’s), but I agree about a Petri dish. Never went on another and would not want to, either, unless I needed to rest and fatten up for free again and it was a quiet old folks type cruise line.
All while we’re “stuck at home cooking and cleaning”? 😂😂🤣
All while we’re “stuck at home cooking and cleaning”? 😂😂🤣
“If anybody still cares about COVID epidemiology, this is actually quite interesting.”
This isn’t interesting at all. It is predictable.
So why are we testing people for a cold? With a combination of vaccines and prior herd immunity, covid-19 is basically a cold now. Omicron variant is reducing its lethality even more (important if you're unvaccinated and old.)
The ship has to get to a certain percentage of cases before she is ‘grounded’ by the CDC ‘laws’ and the ships arent sailing at full capacity ...
so if a few just walk off the ship the cruise lines arent going to be too concerned ...its about the bottom line money ...
CARNIVAL is the only one of the big 3 cruise lines that seems to grasp the problem of the upcoming road to recovery.
They are getting rid of 18 ships to cut back on their expenses.
Granted Carnival is much more in debt than Nowegian and Royal, who are happy talking there way though this pandemic.
Time makes all things clear. -Tom
“Six people who had tested positive disembarked the ship mid-voyage and were transported home.”
they’re probably lucky they weren’t just tossed overboard considering how deadly covid is and the fact that this is a super-scary pandemic emergency ...
Article says 98% of the 48 people were vaxxed.....
“All while we’re “stuck at home cooking and cleaning”?
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That still makes me laugh. What a snob 😂
“This may be why the big 3 cruise lines went all for more stringent protocols”
yeah? like what? given that 98% of those with covid were fully vaxxed, it’s clear that vaxxes don’t stop infection or transmission ... the only thing i can think of that would be absolutely foolproof is to accept only cruisers who can prove they have antibodies from a previous infection ...
Vaxes working great, ain’t they?
Originally, they estimated the vaccines to be around 90% to 95% effective against symptomatic Covid. Then they lowered it to around 88% to 93% efficacy against hospitalization after Delta took off. Now with Omicron ... they expect it to be even less effective at preventing you catching it.
Almost NO vaccine has 100% efficacy. Example:
One dose of MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella.
Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html
The rabies vaccine is something of an exception, with 100% efficacy. Thank Heaven.
BTW, I am not a rabid pro-vaxxer, and am firmly against mandates. I am not rabidly anti-vaxx, either: I don’t believe they contain itty bitty razor blades and squiggly parasites and make you magnetic, as some on FR believe. I believe it is, and should be a private personal decision and each person’s decision should be respected, either way.
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