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No survivors found in jet that crashed in El Cajon-area neighborhood after leaving O.C. with 4 on board
KTLA ^ | Dec 28, 2021 | Matt Meyer

Posted on 12/28/2021 10:10:17 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: janetjanet998

That audio of the pilot asking the tower to turn up the runway lights, with the tower telling him they’re at 100%, followed by the pilot screaming leads me to think he wasn’t where he thought he was.


21 posted on 12/28/2021 10:59:44 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Steely Tom

He was definitely out of control and looked like he was on fire and in a spin.


22 posted on 12/28/2021 11:00:57 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: BenLurkin

Why do people need a private jet to travel what is less than a 2 hr drive ? Kobe also chose to fly what could have been easily driven.


23 posted on 12/28/2021 11:02:44 AM PST by libh8er
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To: janetjanet998

Omg. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Just watching those scarred me for life. Dear Gd.


24 posted on 12/28/2021 11:03:06 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: BenLurkin

The birds were grounded in that weather.


25 posted on 12/28/2021 11:03:38 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: IYAS9YAS

And right after they responded that the runway lights were on, there were two sounds. I can’t describe them but like bumps / hits / dull contact sounds. Then he screams like he knows he’s dying (o sh**) and the plane twirls nose down to earth. Ghastly. Something happened up there. What were those noises?


26 posted on 12/28/2021 11:05:19 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: stanne

I wonder if all he was trying to do in the end was to avoid hitting a residential area.


27 posted on 12/28/2021 11:05:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Yaelle
And right after they responded that the runway lights were on, there were two sounds. I can’t describe them but like bumps / hits / dull contact sounds. Then he screams like he knows he’s dying (o sh**) and the plane twirls nose down to earth. Ghastly. Something happened up there. What were those noises?

I initially thought it was the thump of the gear being lowered, but then I listened again and turned up the volume. After the thump is a weird sound like an engine straining to run (reminded me of a 60s ray gun sound). It does sort of sound like a strike of some sort may have taken out an engine.

28 posted on 12/28/2021 11:10:21 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: libh8er

Reported to be an air ambulance flight.


29 posted on 12/28/2021 11:13:31 AM PST by Ben Dover
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To: Yaelle

I’m just guessing that he hit power lines, like tower lines, not utility poles.................


30 posted on 12/28/2021 11:21:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Yaelle
No one was hurt on the ground but one home was damaged and power lines were knocked down in the area, the sheriff’s department said, causing more than 2,500 San Diego Gas & Electric customers to lose power after the crash.
31 posted on 12/28/2021 11:23:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Ben Dover

Although the new report I viewed reported that it was an air ambulance flight, the call sign in the air traffic recording did not identify the aircraft with the word “Lifeguard” before the tail number. Maybe the flight was arriving to pick up a patient.


32 posted on 12/28/2021 11:23:49 AM PST by Ben Dover
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To: dfwgator

“ I wonder if all he was trying to do in the end was to avoid hitting a residential area.”

Of course. That’s training


33 posted on 12/28/2021 11:25:10 AM PST by stanne
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To: roving
Changed his mind on the runway he was cleared to land on and during the turn, he stalled.

The voice recorder picked up a sound like a gunshot just before he screamed. There was no stall warning, which I assume would have been included in a plane of that caliber.

34 posted on 12/28/2021 11:41:41 AM PST by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: forgotten man
I have noticed that many of the airplane crashes in that area involve an amateur pilot who is also a medical doctor.

My dad was a Navy pilot for 28 years. After he retired, he taught ground and flight training at a civilian flight school.

He told me quite a few of his students were doctors and lawyers. He said some of them were pretty arrogant and didn’t seem to respect how important all of the facets (especially the safety measures) of the training were. He kind of worried about those who passed the class.

35 posted on 12/28/2021 11:50:55 AM PST by Allegra
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To: monkeypants

Spent 20years Flying out of Gillespie with a pilot Buddy. Piper Cubs,Luscombes
and Home Builds. I don’t have “Aviator Genes”, to
Many Things can go Wrong so
Quickly.


36 posted on 12/28/2021 11:54:38 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Chode

Thump,
I heard it.
That’s a bad thing to
Happen while Aviating.


37 posted on 12/28/2021 11:57:46 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Allegra

Old Pilots and Bold Pilots,
But No Old,Bold Pilots.


38 posted on 12/28/2021 12:03:46 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Big Red Badger

right? and the weird thing is, it IS a THUMP... not a metallic sound at all


39 posted on 12/28/2021 12:04:41 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Allegra

“He kind of worried about those who passed the class. “

I heard many years ago the hot/fast general aviation aircraft being called “doctor killers” due in no small part to the arrogance of the pilots.


40 posted on 12/28/2021 12:51:12 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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