Posted on 12/29/2021 9:12:40 PM PST by Enlightened1
Political Junkie Too wrote: “Should I discard a citation simply because you pinged it to me?”
If they claim Malone invented mRNA, what else did they get wrong?
I just did a PDF search of their report and see no hits on the word "Malone."
You use the word "if" because you're speculating, and then acting as if that speculation is true.
This Canadian group has no connections to Malone, other than that he recommended viewing their report.
What you did is guilt by association. This report has nothing to do with Malone, was authored independently of Malone, and did not seek any endorsement from Malone.
You are simply using Malone's ping as the excuse to avoid discussing the issues presented in the Canadian report.
-PJ
Political Junkie Too wrote: “Show me where they claim anything about Malone.”
The very first sentence in the post: “Keep in mind Dr. Robert Malone is the mRNA inventor.”
This is what’s called an appeal to authority. If Malone didn’t invent the mRNA, then the appeal collapses.
That's not the Canadians who produced the report you desperately want to discredit and ignore. That's the OP who linked to the Rumble channel "TellMeSweetLittleLies" who put up the Twitter story.
That's three times removed from the original Canadian report: Enlightened1 posting the story on FR, the "TellMeSweetLittleLies" post on Rumble, and Malone's ping on twitter.
Try again. Or discuss the Candadian report.
-PJ
Political Junkie Too wrote: “You know better than that, but you’re a dishonest poster.”
Not I. The subject of this thread is: “Dr. RObert Malone Was Kicked Off Of Twitter After Recommending This Video”
Malone is a part then of this video because he recommended this video. Malone has claimed to be the inventor of mRNA is numerous places. If he lied about that, then why should I trust his assessment of this video.
BTW, I don’t watch videos. If there was anything of substance, then it would have been peer reviewed, double blind, placebo technical report published in a reputable medical journal?
DugwayDuke uses as a reference:
That article uses as the reference for what Robert Malone said, a website called Logically. An article dated July 20, 2021, by Ernie Piper, at that website:
In that article, the author [Piper] was told by Malone:
“I didn’t invent these vaccines,” he said in an interview with me. “I invented the vaccine platform and the concept. I did not invent these specific vaccines.”
Robert Malone website that cites portions of his background and work, re mRNA vaccine inventing - the title of the webpage is “RNA Vaccine Inventor,” and that webpage was produced by his wife, Jill Malone:
https://www.rwmalonemd.com/rna-vaccine-inventor
I would say, that Dr. Malone was certainly an inventor and valuable pioneer at a key moment, when, IIRC, HIV held more of the spotlight than SARS.
My overriding concern in all this SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 *vaccination* mess, is that the ability of a person’s immune system, to identify and distinguish:
1st) the Spike Protein complex (and/or various proteins therein) as hostile, but
2nd) the human cell on which that Spike Protein is “expressed” (via any “COVID-19 vaccine” effort in the human body), is NOT hostile.
Because, I now suspect, based upon my own reading and studying, that the human immune system may experience a “self-identification” failure re point number (2), preceding; that is, an auto-immune disease -type event:
Such as, for example, the immune system failing to identify a friendly cell (of many) of a person’s heart - and hence, a significant rise in reports of myocarditis). (That, reminding us, to be sure to ask the innoculator to aspirate “the shot” if one chooses that course.)
I reject your assertion that Malone can ex post facto attach himself to the Canadian report, and that somehow taints the veracity of the report that predates Malone's awareness of it.
Otherwise, every study that you cite becomes tainted by your citation of it, too.
-PJ
“I didn’t invent these vaccines,” he said in an interview with me. “I invented the vaccine platform and the concept. I did not invent these specific vaccines.”
That has always been my understanding. He did his thing with mRNA about thirty years ago, if I remember correctly. It is like disputing Ford’s contribution concerning the automobile because he didn’t invent the latest model coming out of wherever they are made.
The point he makes is that he invented the platform and the concept and has kept abreast since.
linMcHlp wrote: “DugwayDuke uses as a reference: ...”
From one of your links:
“Malone gets his credibility among the anti-vax and anti-COVID-vax crowd by calling himself the inventor of mRNA vaccines, which is a bit like calling a guy who worked on the combustion engine the inventor of space flight.”
That’s precisely my point. The anti-vaxx crowd likes to criticize me for pointing out Malone’s self-admission that he didn’t invent mRNA because that reduces the impact of his criticism. Funny, it’s ok for that crowd to lie about his resume to reinforce his criticism but it’s not ok for me to point out this falsehood.
Political Junkie Too wrote: “I reject your assertion that Malone can ex post facto attach himself to the Canadian report, and that somehow taints the veracity of the report that predates Malone’s awareness of it.”
Pay attention. I’ve criticized neither the report or Malone. I’ve only used Malone’s self-admissions to point out the error my by OP when he called Malone the inventor of mRNA.
-PJ
Myocarditis gets reported as an adverse event for virtually every vaccine that’s ever been made. And in similar numbers to Covid. Tiny in number but common to vaccines in general. It usually goes away all by itself. Treatment is common otc pain meds.
“ Because, I now suspect, based upon my own reading and studying, that the human immune system may experience a “self-identification” failure re point number (2), preceding; that is, an auto-immune disease -type event:
Such as, for example, the immune system failing to identify a friendly cell (of many) of a person’s heart - and hence, a significant rise in reports of myocarditis). (That, reminding us, to be sure to ask the innoculator to aspirate “the shot” if one chooses that course.)”
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Ok, I wasn’t going to comment but what the heck?
Every time the Famous and Brilliant Dr. Malone speaks, I can’t help but remember in my head that He chose to get vaccinated himself.
Dr Malone is vaccinated with the double shot of Pfizer. Whether he got a booster or not, I do not know.
Now on to this:
What does a Football player, Ballet Dance and a Cocaine user all have in common??
Sometimes they suffer from Myocarditis.
Your heart is a muscle all it’s own (cardiac muscle) it’s not like any other muscle in your body.
What builds your heart muscle is beating hard and fast. Playing sports, and other physical activities. Also, nose candy. Cocaine users experience fast, rapid heart rates.
Conditions such as Enlarged Heart, Myocarditis, Pericarditis have occurred long before Covid and long before Covid vaccines.
“ be sure to ask the innoculator to aspirate “the shot” if one chooses that course.)”
I’m not sure where or who started this silly thing.
I’m also not sure why anyone thinks it matters.
Aspirating?
Pulling back on the plunger is done for an I.M. (Intra Muscular) injection for only 2 reasons. If the patient is very thin, skinny and finding a good muscle it difficult or if the injector thinks the needle might be too long.
Generally, when numerous injections are being administered, the injections are pre-prepared and one sized needle is used.
It’s a smaller needle to make sure one size does fit all.
Receding the plunger doesn’t stop the full injection dose from entering.
It’s rarely down because it’s rarely needed.
Children that receive IMs ( for any reason) would probably have the plunger withdrawn if the injection in not going in their butt. Why? Not to avoid veins, or arteries (which is a whole other topic) but to make sure the pull is tight and you haven’t gone past the muscle area………because if you passed the muscle area, a bruise will develop. That’s it. Nothing sinister, or secretive about it.
You have veins and arteries throughout your body, yes even in muscle.
So if the idea is to pull back on the plunger to avoid venous injection, that is ridiculous.
A vaccine will travel throughout your body.
Who wants their knees to get Covid? LOL
Some of these long standing rumors have now been adopted as fact by people with little to no medical knowledge at all.
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