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ELECTRIC UTILITY PRICING for CUSTOMERS with SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATIONS Electric Utility Pricing for Customers with Solar Panel Installations
01/29/2022 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 01/29/2022 7:34:33 AM PST by Brian Griffin

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To: G Larry

“Did I mention that gov’t hates anything that promotes independence?”

To them: Independence = Profits Unrealized.


41 posted on 01/29/2022 8:38:48 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“If you own a $20 million beach front mansion, expect to spend about 3% of its price to raise it up.”

Why? All these prognostics of global warming are just BS. We’re headed into an ice age.


42 posted on 01/29/2022 8:40:01 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen JimRob!


43 posted on 01/29/2022 8:44:32 AM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Brian Griffin

What ever Socialist wrote this nonsense is an idiot.

The government should get out of the energy business. The best way to insure that EVERYONE has competitive energy is competition.

At times of high demand, A/C demand especially in the summer months utilities will pay up to $5000 per MW for electricity over and above what they can make. If a person had 15 or 20 KW on their roof in PV’s they could make a little money selling back to the grid, but if the grid doesn’t want it the government shouldn’t interfere with it. If people want solar let them pay for it. If people believe in Global warming then let them pay for their solar and not worry about it.

I don’t believe in Global warming and don’t care if the grid buys my excess electricity or not. I have solar so when the power is out mine is not. (I have substantial battery backup) Right now in my Kentucky home I don’t have to use my battery backup unless we have a storm that takes the power out. The Electricity company DOES take my excess electricity and allows me to take it back whenever I want. So, in the daytime I give to them (when they need it the most) and at night time I take it from them when they have the most to spare. If the government would stop protecting monopolies so much and allow competition we would see wonders.

To think that I should have to pay more if I use less is lunacy. Currently I have to pay a minimum fee to be connected to the grid each month, you do too you just don’t know it because you use more than some minimum. This is to cover the cost of the wiring to my home and billing. So, whether or not I use any electricity I still have to pay them about $20. I do it, I could always just disconnect and save $240 a year but I like being tied to the grid, the grid likes getting my money.

People need to stop thinking of government solutions to everything, we just don’t need most of it.


44 posted on 01/29/2022 8:44:56 AM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours.)
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To: Brian Griffin; G Larry
G Larry ~ I don’t want to sell my solar energy back to the utility!

When I installed solar on my crackerbox in California, I opted for an anemic 800W.

Why?

Because, by law, every watt generated over the total used was a gift to PG&E.

Consider moving to California, you won't have to worry your pretty little head about selling excess power back to the utility company...

45 posted on 01/29/2022 8:46:40 AM PST by null and void (81 million votes ≠ 81 million voters)
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To: ConservativeMind

“I’d say your social justice support would also work to say no one should have lobster when people in Africa may be starving.”

The Africans could be working in factories making stuff, and money to buy food.

I think my last pair of pants bought were sewn in Egypt.

For Africans to get social justice, African leftists and corrupt officials need to get the boot. You may also substitute Central American, Latin American and American for African.


46 posted on 01/29/2022 8:50:24 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

“For Africans to get social justice”

They lack this thing you call “social justice”? Just what is that made up crap anyway?


47 posted on 01/29/2022 8:53:05 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: null and void
I left CA in 1985 and aside from many business trips, visited my former home town in 1997.

Much is still beautiful, but that is outweighed by the cultural collapse, so I have no desire to go back.

48 posted on 01/29/2022 8:53:20 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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To: JAKraig

“If people believe in Global warming then let them pay for their solar and not worry about it.”

Solar doesn’t work well in cloudy Cleveland.

They may wish to pay for nuclear, but nuclear takes time to build, especially with government permitting required.


49 posted on 01/29/2022 8:54:53 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: CodeToad

The people that believe in “social justice” now run things and will do so for many years.

The concerns of the people in control must be taken into account and catered to.

Because five Republican state legislatures failed to prevent an obviously demented man from becoming President of the United States, that is the way it is.


50 posted on 01/29/2022 8:59:59 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

Another analysis of proposed CA regulations:

http://www.californiafocus.net/2021/12/will-state-regulators-kill-rooftop-solar.html

This points out that Power Utilities are looking out for themsleves, at the expense of Solar homeowners.


51 posted on 01/29/2022 9:01:25 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: JAKraig

“The Electricity company DOES take my excess electricity and allows me to take it back whenever I want. So, in the daytime I give to them (when they need it the most) and at night time I take it from them when they have the most to spare.”

It is going to be a cold night in Florida. FPL facilities will be running at full bore.

If Floridians want to live in warm houses in late January, FPL’s costs to provide enough electricity must be considered and compensated. The question is how much.

“The government should get out of the energy business.”

I can play tough with FPL and live in an unheated house if its rates are too high, but how about an 87-year old woman with significant dementia?


52 posted on 01/29/2022 9:09:43 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

I open my windows when it’s warm and keep them closed when it’s cold....

That’s all I care about solar anything.


53 posted on 01/29/2022 9:10:43 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Brian Griffin

Here in California we are currently being inundated with TV advertising telling us how unfair it is for the poor, who cannot afford to buy solar, to have to pay higher electricity rates to subsidize the rich who can. But they fail to grasp the fact that first, the rich were encouraged by the state to do so with the enticement of guaranteed rate reduction and tax incentives. Secondly, the state now requires all new housing to have solar. Third, solar generation reduces the demand for additional generating sources like hydro and nuclear thereby reducing overall costs for everyone, including the poor. And finally, solar reduces California’s need to buy expensive emergency power from neighboring states during high demand periods, again reducing electrical costs for all. To change the rules now would amount to a government condoned “bait and switch” for solar owners to placate those who cry “poverty” at every cost in life and continually seek government subsistence.


54 posted on 01/29/2022 10:23:51 AM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: Brian Griffin

As long as “Bob” has his neighbors paying for his solar installation and subsidizes the cost of electricity he is ok with it.


55 posted on 01/29/2022 1:05:54 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: ConservativeMind

Back in the early days here in the US or what would become the US, lobster was considered a nasty food and is what they fed to prisoners.


56 posted on 01/29/2022 3:18:06 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Rowdyone

“And finally, solar reduces California’s need to buy expensive emergency power from neighboring states during high demand periods, again reducing electrical costs for all. “

Solar is an expensive energy source. Kali should have kept their coal mad and NG power plants. The morons brag they have shuttered coal plants.

California Energy Commissions: “Since 2007, 11 in-state coal-fired plants retired (370 MW), and 3 converted to biomass
fuel (132 MW). With the retirement of the 108 MW ACE Cogeneration plant in 2014, the
last remaining coal-fired power plant in California is the 63 MW Argus Cogen plant”


57 posted on 01/29/2022 4:31:58 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“but how about an 87-year old woman with significant dementia?”

Why is she is her own house with significant dementia???

Trey a different analogy, that one is just plain dumb.


58 posted on 01/29/2022 4:33:19 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

“but how about an 87-year old woman with significant dementia?”

Why is she is her own house with significant dementia???

= = =

She should come back to DC from Delaware.


59 posted on 01/29/2022 6:16:44 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Brian Griffin

I can play tough with FPL and live in an unheated house if its rates are too high, but how about an 87-year old woman with significant dementia?

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The government should not be in the energy business. I didn’t say anything about not taking care of those who cannot take care of themselves, two different subjects.


60 posted on 01/29/2022 9:32:03 PM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours.)
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