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CEO Barra Says GM Can Overtake Tesla, And It's Investing Heavily...GM is making massive plans to become the world's next EV leader, but the projected sales figures don't make sense.
https://insideevs.com ^ | Jan 31, 2022 at 10:25am ET | Steven Loveday

Posted on 01/31/2022 9:02:15 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Don’t want their toy cars...ain’t enough juice to run them and I don’t have all day for a ‘fill up’.


41 posted on 01/31/2022 10:00:29 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: brownsfan

“What’s Good For GM Is Good For America.”..................


42 posted on 01/31/2022 10:02:10 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Stingray51
I currently have 30 kWh of battery storage. If I get an EV I'll increase it to 90 kWh. Since I drain my batteries 70%, count it as my currently using 21 kWh of storage and increasing it to 63 kWh.

Part of my math, too, is that my solar inverter has a feature to power only certain circuits (a separate circuit panel) only on the condition that my home batteries are at least X% charged. So if I or my wife come home in the EV and have, say, 2/3rds still "in the tank" and plan nothing but short drives around town the next few days -- we'll plug it into an outlet that's powered only when the home solar has excess (say 80% or more charged). If we come home with a low EV charge or if we plan to drive a lot the next day, we'll plug it into a normal constant power outlet (knowing that some of that power will be pulled from the grid).

So if we plug it into the excess power circuit we'll plug it in knowing that it may not get any charge at all. Or maybe some for a while until the home battery charge level is below the threshold. Likewise with it automatically start charging the next day after the sun comes up if the EV is already plugged into the excess-power outlet (say if I work from home the next day or it's an off day and I'm outside cutting grass, while my wife is either at home or taking the gas car on a day or two trip to visit family).

But this math works only if you live in the south where we get plenty of sun and don't consume as much power at night for heat (I do some this time of year, but my variable speed heat pump usually keeps up with the cold without having to power the heat strips). Here in the south a huge portion of our power is used for A/C about half the year. Since a lot of that is during the daytime and since that half of the year has long daytime days, there's less need for battery power to stay cool.

And since the days it rains or is cloudy tend to also be mild temperature days I don't have to run the A/C or heat as much on days I get little solar power. That's why it currently provides half the power we consume.

43 posted on 01/31/2022 10:05:56 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Regulator

“Full Stop” speaking in clichés is a sign of low intelligence


44 posted on 01/31/2022 10:06:41 AM PST by KMG365
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To: Regulator

Give me a newer one...i’m kinda old myself!🧙‍♂️


45 posted on 01/31/2022 10:09:14 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: NohSpinZone

Unlike GM, DEC hadnt been buying congressman since before WWII. Maybe they have reason to believe they know something.

I know something, Bill Gates past isnt what we have been told it is.


46 posted on 01/31/2022 10:24:45 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Red Badger

Mary needs help with her math skills. Tesla made 938,000 EVs in 2021. By 2025 they will be at 4 million or more.


47 posted on 01/31/2022 10:30:06 AM PST by POWG
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To: Zathras

Ford has stopped offering sedans in the US except for the Mustang. Only trucks and SUVs.


48 posted on 01/31/2022 10:30:41 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: beef

Charleston SC or Charleston WV?


49 posted on 01/31/2022 10:40:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: SmokingJoe

“And GM still sold a puny 26 EV’s in the entire 4th quarter”

They stopped the sales in 4th gtq due to battery issues not due to low demand.

The new Cadillac Lyriq suv sold 1500 pre production in 9 minutes recently

The Silverado 653 hp, 400 mile range, 10,00 lb towing capacity sold it’s pre production in 12 minutes.

The pre production sale is GM’s way to see how much interest .sort of like poll

They could have sold thousands more but cut it off at 1500


50 posted on 01/31/2022 10:47:25 AM PST by setter
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To: Red Badger

The biggest feature of the 21st century is the huge number of unasked questions. One of the biggest is where does the electricity to charge these vehicles come from?

Gas, coal or oil fired generators are supplying the bulk of the charging so where’s the emission savings?


51 posted on 01/31/2022 10:52:40 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Reily

SC


52 posted on 01/31/2022 10:56:31 AM PST by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: beef

Thanks


53 posted on 01/31/2022 11:00:21 AM PST by Reily
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To: muir_redwoods

“Gas, coal or oil fired generators are supplying the bulk of the charging so where’s the emission savings?”

If every plant was coal fired and every car an EV there would be less pollution emitted than if every plant was solar/green and all cars were gas.

Gas cars as a whole pollute more than the fossil fueled plants.

Many coal powered plants are being converted to gas and most new plants being built are powered by natural gas because way less emissions than coal. Gas burns fairly clean.

Gas will be our heating and electrical source for the next 100 years because it is clean and cheap overall.


54 posted on 01/31/2022 11:00:41 AM PST by setter
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To: Red Badger
The underlying premise of GM's push toward EV's is that their supply will push demand. There is likely to be some demand for a Tesla competitor, but it's not a given that they can double the size of the market in a short time.

In any case, the next few years in the auto industry are going to be very interesting.

55 posted on 01/31/2022 11:05:14 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: setter
They stopped the sales in 4th gtq due to battery issues not due to low demand.

How long has Bara been CEO of GM again?
SEVEN years and counting.
Now if she'd look after business instead of partying at the White House with Dementia Joe, maybe GM may be doing better right now.

56 posted on 01/31/2022 11:08:24 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: alternatives?

There was nothing wrong with the Corvair, Ralph Nader was a damn liar.


57 posted on 01/31/2022 11:12:49 AM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam )
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To: Red Badger
Is anyone looking at where all these EV’s will be charged each day and what the cost will be in terms of electric utility investment and modifications to home's, offices, public buildings?

Without major investments in capital, EV’s can not go mainstream and the laws banning the sale and licensing of internal combustion engine vehicles will have to be put on hold, unless legislatures want to crash the economy.

58 posted on 01/31/2022 11:33:05 AM PST by Robert357
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To: Red Badger

GM can kiss my lily white ass. Never going to buy a vehicle from them after they took taxpayer money for ‘bailouts’ and failed to pay it all back.


59 posted on 01/31/2022 11:33:55 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: alternatives?

“Corvair, Vega, Cavalier, Chevette, Volt, etc.”

I owned a Chevette first and then a Cavalier and both were two of the best cars I ever owned. Lasted forever with minimal issues. I had to put in a clutch in the cavalier at 90k miles was the only service issue

I beat that Chevette to h&ll and back, off roaded it, just beat it up and rarely changed the oil and it never let me down.


60 posted on 01/31/2022 11:34:00 AM PST by setter
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