Posted on 02/20/2022 2:03:47 AM PST by RandFan
I live in a small town and what our force has to face everyday is disturbing: o.ds, abuse of children, of wives, stealing and so on. Not to mention the b.s. calls. i.e. someone’s dog is loose etc. Local police are the only thing that stands between a civil existence and anarchy. I’m not going to through the baby out with the bathwater. However, the county and state police have become militant. I do try to see the things they have to confront because our society is heading into sh*thole status and they are out there in the middle of it. But what happened in Canada was disgusting. I remember one of the Canadians telling the line of cops that ‘he backed them and supported them when they were under fire from Trudeau’ and he asked them, ‘how can you turn on your supporters like this?
Not just Canada. We have been watching them in action in places like Australia and the UK too, and not just in connection with protests. They have seemed all too happy to arrest people for things like not wearing a mask outdoors, or for being outdoors too long, or for gathering for church services, when they could easily look the other way and go about their business policing real criminals.
I gave up on the police when I was told by a detective that intentionally writing a bad check was not a crime but a civil matter. The detective should have just told me it wasn’t worth his time. Further incidents included numerous businesses not filling out property reports, purchasing jewelry and rare coins from minors with no penalty. It made me realize the police care more about the chamber of commerce and take revenue than protecting the public.
*throw
Corruption and graft yes, but what we see today is not typical corruption and graft, what we see today is ideological conformity, the cops are now almost all woke people who believe their job is to represent elected tyrants, and they believe anyone whom is not communist is a racist, bigot and a nazi.
You’re trying to compare apples and oranges as to the type and amount of corruption from that long ago to now. Today it is a much different kind of corruption (ideological) and it is much more wide-spread.
I am not completely disagreeing with here, I just make a distinction between the typical graft and corruption that has always been a part of policing in big cities and with what we see today, the complete ideologica corruption of turning entire police forces against patriotic people who support the Constitution.
Can you see the difference?
Demographic trends alone make that increasingly more likely.
Demographics really is destiny no matter how much the civnatcucks scream it is not.
The police are necessary. And limitations and oversight of them is necessary. Properly managed with limits and oversights and rights and the whole shebang, they can be a force for good. But this in Ottawa is anything but that ideal.
Social contract has been used to wipe Brandeau’s arse with. Have fun with that/irony
As long as liberal politicians keep telling the police to “stand down”, they are completely useless. If they won’t even stop rioters from torching police cars, they certainly aren’t going to protect my home and family.
I think the problem is the feds have taken control of PDs through grants, programs, funding, “taskforces”, FBI, etc etc.
GOP administrations/lawmakers have also given them more powers which I feel should be reigned in.
Yes, it was his rally in Chicago in late 2015 or early 2016 where the cops funneled the Trump supporters, they claimed to their parking areas and told the Trump supporters they were maintaining a safe space for them to get to their cars and instead led them right to antifa and blm goons who proceeded to beat up mostly old people if one watches the vids from that incident, and the Chicago cops stood by and let the beating happen. That was when I really started to take a much harder look at how cops were now operating because I realized at that point that something had changed.
That was also the incident that convinced me to drop my support of Ted Cruz and I then became a full on MAGA Deplorable. Ted Cruz the next day claimed it was Trump supporters that had caused the violence in Chicago that night even though all the videos showed that not to be true. I lost all respect for Cruz when he did that, and it showed me given the choice between standing for what is right, and that which is politically expedient, Cruz could not be trusted to make that decision as President.
But I thank Ted Cruz for exposing himself that way as it led me to be full supporter of our greatest President ever Donald J. Trump.
MAGA forever baby.
HONK HONK
Bears repeating
The alternative of no police, no military, no border patrol is unthinkable.
“The alternative of no police, no military, no border patrol is unthinkable.”
It’s also been thought of, as far back as the Talmud, and as recently as by John Locke.
> And limitations and oversight of them is necessary.
There are so many laws on the books now where do you start?
I’d love to see PATRIOT Act repealed completely.
No more “re-authorizations” or whatever just totally repealed.
Civil asset forfeiture is another problem and rife with abuse.
If anyone wants to live in a really peaceful place then Maine is the state to live in. I’ve lived here 7 years now and there are just not many violent people up here, even when antifa and blm protest things stay peaceful. Of course it helps when they do protest usually more people show up with their AR-15’s, just to keep an eye on things, than there are protesters. LOL.
In all seriousness though, I have lived in many places throughout the US because I was a contractor in the Navy shipbuilding business, and Maine is by far the most peaceful place I have ever lived. Just sayin.
Many of those who find jobs in law enforcement seek power over others and the permission to abuse that power when the opportunity arises.
What are needed are well screened police candidates, meaning psychological screening to weed out the sociopaths and psychopaths. After that, when you’ve found the proper kinds of candidates for policing then you train them properly and drum into their heads that ultimately they are there to protect the people and their Constitutional Rights and most importantly to always live by the oath that they take. When you’ve done that properly you will have the kind of police force that will stand by the people.
Here is the lesson:
Blind allegiance to ANY group is childish and naïve.
If we truly believe in individual liberty, then we should treat every case individually, not collectively.
I disagree. The RINOs are always in the majority in Congress and even down to state legislatures. Picking off a couple an election cycle isn’t nearly enough. They are the ones keeping us from ever having our pols reflect our majority position.
It is a crime, no? Then you can citizen-arrest the person. I think one of the reasons why my charges were dropped was that I told my lawyer that we were going to trial and if my accusers showed up in court [I have the right to face my accusers] then I would citizen-arrest them. I even asked her to start making arrangements for custody with the bailiff and the judge.
The police are frankly just the ‘gang’ in charge and thats it.
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