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Shakespeare's Globe Theatre academic says Elizabeth I may have been non-binary in essay calling Virgin Queen 'them' after row over transgender Joan Of Arc play
UK Daily Mail ^ | August 13, 2022 | Oliver Price

Posted on 08/13/2022 6:23:41 AM PDT by C19fan

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They have brought back stereotypes with a vengeance.

A strong independent woman in history now must be a man.

A little boy who likes to bake cookies must really be female. A little girl who plays with trucks must be a male.


21 posted on 08/13/2022 7:20:26 AM PDT by susannah59 ( )
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To: C19fan

Have you noticed homosexuals are taking every means to erase women from history and society?

The Mommy-as-Monster trans movement is just one of them.


22 posted on 08/13/2022 7:20:51 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: C19fan

Wouldn’t you expect the daughter of Henry VIII to be a bit decadent and hedonistic?


23 posted on 08/13/2022 7:24:29 AM PDT by allendale
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To: cdcdawg

We have gone past absurd.

Now archaeologists who dig up bones aren’t supposed to say that this is a female skeleton or that’s a male skeleton because that’s assigning gender and maybe that person didn’t identify that way.

These people have lost their minds.


24 posted on 08/13/2022 7:24:41 AM PDT by susannah59 ( )
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….or… maybe gender rules in society don’t always make much sense, and if you insist on inflicting peoples opinions on other people, any deviation is going to be viewed as breaking the rules, however stupid those rules might be.

Biology makes sense, but human opinions don’t always make sense.

How about this rule, from the world of fiction?

Jack Sparrow : The only rules that really matter are these: what a man (or woman) can do and what a man (or woman) can’t do.

If gender roles (other peoples opinions and expectations inflicted on YOU!) are about as legitimate as any other groupthinky witch-hunty example of people having too much time on their hands, to be able to create elaborate rules that everyone is supposed to follow and which are guaranteed to get in people’s way in direct relation to the byzantine regulation ones fellow humans are being subjected to, then the case in favor of religion is proved, since the will of an unseen deity can work as a tie-breaker as it did with Elizabeth I, when God was seen as protecting her and England from the Spanish.


25 posted on 08/13/2022 7:25:27 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Representatives are supposed to represent their constituents, that is their job. )
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Stop the Globe, I want to get off...What will be next from these morons? I don’t want to know...


26 posted on 08/13/2022 7:41:34 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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To: C19fan
This is not a serious historical "theory". Rather a loyalty test where they see who salutes.

They are just taunting us.

27 posted on 08/13/2022 7:45:46 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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She also was proud to have never taken a bath.

That would make for the gaggiest beaver munch in history.


28 posted on 08/13/2022 7:46:12 AM PDT by fruser1
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These people have lost their minds.

Would they NEED TO HAVE A MIND to lose it? 🤓

29 posted on 08/13/2022 7:51:23 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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To: C19fan

No attempt to regulate the heck out of people’s sex roles bodes well for the cause of freedom. Less is more.


30 posted on 08/13/2022 7:57:54 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Representatives are supposed to represent their constituents, that is their job. )
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Gay men claimed Lincoln was a homo because he shared a bed with a man.

Abraham Lincoln has been described as a homosexual / vampire slayer / racist. Just mentioning one of the slurs is not enough.

Actually, if you tour the Lincoln Museum in Springfield, Illinois and walk through the exhibit of newspaper cartoons depicting Lincoln while he was in office, the whole homo/vampire killer/racist thing pales in comparison. His opponents did not spare any punches. And then they shot him in the back.

31 posted on 08/13/2022 7:59:17 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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Number of women QE I is speculated to have taken as lovers: 0

Number of men QE I is speculated to have taken as lovers: 4 (Robert Dudley, Robert Devereux, Francis Drake, and Walter Raleigh)


32 posted on 08/13/2022 8:01:35 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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"... Abraham Lincoln has been described as a homosexual / vampire slayer / racist. Just mentioning one of the slurs is not enough...."

Lincoln self-confessed to his racism in his speeches and writings, frequently and unequivocally.

So there's that.

33 posted on 08/13/2022 8:04:40 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Leaning Right

I don’t know about personalities, but she had multiple lovers. She may not have had any children, but there is every indication based on history that she was not a “virgin” queen.


34 posted on 08/13/2022 8:15:06 AM PDT by redangus
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This topic was posted 8/13/2022, thanks C19fan.

35 posted on 08/13/2022 9:26:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Actually, boys with high voices played women in Shakespeare’s plays. It is a little creepy I guess.

She probably wasn’t a virgin, but it would have been treason to say otherwise, and she might have been gay.


36 posted on 08/13/2022 10:02:54 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: allendale

Henry didn’t raise Elizabeth. He had very little to do with her. So, no, I would have no such expectations.


37 posted on 08/13/2022 1:36:51 PM PDT by GingisK
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Then you know nothing about genetics or how young girls are influenced by their fathers or tales of their fathers.


38 posted on 08/13/2022 3:55:29 PM PDT by allendale
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Hopefully,ancestors of Joan of arc and the queen will Sue for defamation

They might except that all of them have been dead for centuries.

And they don't have any descendants either.

39 posted on 08/13/2022 4:01:47 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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You, on the other hand, don’t seem to know too much about QE-1. Henry made a mess of things. QE-1 did her nation a great deal of good.


40 posted on 08/13/2022 4:19:15 PM PDT by GingisK
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