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Putin 'has been offered surrender terms by the West' as he loses control of Kherson - and 'his cronies have reacted positively because it allows them to stay in power and avoid criminal charges'
MailOnline ^ | 2 November 2022 05:25 EST, 1 | Will Stewart and Chris Pleasance

Posted on 11/12/2022 6:57:36 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Justa

‘Slava Cocainum’ - New found toilet stick’em
https://twitter.com/ZalupkaUkraine/status/1583455240502005765


21 posted on 11/12/2022 7:41:19 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Your sources give disinformation not information: The Duran Alexander Mercouris, Alex Christoforou, The New Atlas, iEarlGrey who lives in Russia, Douglas MacGregor, Andrei Martyanov, no mention on RT, no mention on TASS, etc., etc., etc.


22 posted on 11/12/2022 7:43:06 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

And yet, you still post up total propaganda with no regard to you knowing full well it is utter propaganda.

Aren’t you the smart one, fake Christian propaganda peddler.


23 posted on 11/12/2022 7:44:51 AM PST by cranked
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To: Justa

“They can stay in power but they have to destroy all strategic weapon systems and cooperate with the UN in dismantling their nuclear weapon stockpiles. In exchange Russia, the US and China will sign a treaty accepting and guaranteeing to respect the territorial borders of Russia.”

Wow! Thanks! That does add another relevancy layer
BTW, you know who to ‘ghost’ :)


24 posted on 11/12/2022 7:46:50 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

25 posted on 11/12/2022 8:04:56 AM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: Poison Pill
The terms would benefit the cronies, but I don’t see how it would benefit Putin.

The oligarchs would happily jettison Putin to keep their money and power while also staying out of prison.

Putin's disposable to them at this point. Honestly, I don't understand why he wasn't sooner. I'd have bet good money that Putin would've been assassinated by now due to oligarch displeasure. Good thing I'm not a betting man.

26 posted on 11/12/2022 8:06:50 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; cranked

A recent study by an Australian University shows that up to 90% of social media “pro Ukraine” propaganda is coming from controlled “bots.”

https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.07038


27 posted on 11/12/2022 8:22:55 AM PST by PGR88
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To: norsky

No wishes needed.

Prayer


28 posted on 11/12/2022 8:26:42 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: All; usconservative

PUTIN’S PROPAGANDISTS HAVE GONE CRAZY ABOUT THE RUSSIAN DEFEAT IN KHERSON || 2022
Warthog Defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH5p6dXwm1s


29 posted on 11/12/2022 8:28:28 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: PGR88

I believe it.

There’s a few posters here that are probably bots too!


30 posted on 11/12/2022 8:34:04 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: cranked

“Aren’t you the smart one, fake Christian propaganda peddler.”

You have the chutzpah to call someone else a fake! Have you found your DD-214 yet? No, of course not. Because you never had one in the first place.


31 posted on 11/12/2022 8:49:14 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: cranked

“I go to 16 Russian social media sites”

How many of those sites predicted that Russia would lose Kherson?


32 posted on 11/12/2022 9:08:51 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Throw in letting the oligarchs get their yachts back and they will make the deal and take care of whats his name.


33 posted on 11/12/2022 9:33:11 AM PST by Cold Heart (Everybody vaxxed was injured, your degree of damage and timing may differ)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
https://sonar21.com/would-the-soviet-union-be-able-to-defeat-the-nazis-in-world-war-ii-if-social-media-existed/

As I noted earlier, the West is heavily invested in the belief that winning the information war will translate into battlefield success for Ukraine. Yet, we have seen how the “success” of the U.S. information wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria have turned out. Money pits that have swallowed trillions of U.S. tax payer dollars with no actual success on the ground, where it counts.

Both of these cataclysmic wars — the Civil War and World War II — are relevant to the carnage unfolding in Ukraine. The facts are very simple:

Fact one — Ukraine’s economy is in tatters and there is no viable path to restore what it was on February 24, 2022.
Fact two — Ukraine is totally dependent on Western aid to keep it army in the field.
Fact three — Ukraine does not have a viable air force and cannot provide close air support to its front line troops. This means any Ukrainian advance on the ground is dependent on the limited armor and artillery units still intact.
Fact four — Ukraine’s ability to produce electricity and power is being steadily degraded and there is no short-term solution to keep the lights on.
Fact five — Russia has not committed its front line forces and high tech weaponry to the fight.
Fact six — Russia’s economy is strong despite Western efforts to sunder it.
Fact seven — Russia is economically self-sufficient. It does not need foreign exports to sustain its industrial base but the world does need critical products and minerals that only Russia produces.
Fact eight — Russian factories are operating 24/7, producing essential military equipment and technology to keep its forces in the fight.
Fact nine — Russia can mobilize and train new troops on its own territory without fear of attack from Ukraine. Ukraine cannot.

The United States and NATO are deluded. They are wielding power like the mean girls in high school, i.e. they are shunning Putin and won’t let him sit at their lunch table. They remain convinced that will crush him. What they did not count on is that Putin is building his own cafeteria and will eat the food he wants and a table he controls. In fact, many of the countries in Europe need essential resources that Russia supplies. It is just a matter of time before those girls try to get a seat at Putin’s table.

It is true that Russia relinquished, at least for now, the portion of Kherson that sits to the west of the Dnieper River. But it controls the rest of Kherson to the east of the river. If Ukraine wants Crimea it will have to cross the Dnieper and fight its way to Crimea. Ukraine does not have the military resources to do that; even with the help of the United States and NATO.

34 posted on 11/12/2022 9:36:54 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Leaning Right

Neither would the Red Chinese. They expect to pick the fruit of Siberia and the Northern Far East when it is ripe.

Goodbye, Vladivostok, Hello Haishenwai!!!


35 posted on 11/12/2022 10:58:07 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: cranked

It’s just more imaginary Eukraine war propaganda from the western media. Total BS as usual.


36 posted on 11/12/2022 11:01:10 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (raise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“....blah, blah, blah...”

That’s right, fake Christian, be sure to pray to God every night for forgiveness of that open brutality and the utter evil of that which you have long supported and sympathized with!

If you dare, fake Christian, IF YOU DARE!!

“Fast Forward to Fascism”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yvMu5HNU1A

Indeed, pray for your own forgiveness.......


37 posted on 11/13/2022 2:49:56 AM PST by cranked
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

38 posted on 11/13/2022 3:07:47 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: cranked

“pray to God every night for forgiveness”
I have pray for myself and for you as well.

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39 posted on 11/13/2022 3:11:40 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

When confronting you with the undeniable nets you a “Remember Free Republic Guidelines’....

Awesome sauce, fake Christian.


40 posted on 11/13/2022 3:15:04 PM PST by cranked
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