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Woke mob vandalizes statue of Abraham Lincoln with red paint and daubs 'COLONIZER' and 'LAND BACK' during Thanksgiving day attack in Chicago
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 27, 2022 | Aneeta Nhole

Posted on 11/27/2022 3:29:42 AM PST by C19fan

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To: C19fan

I take it that all of the vandals are indigenous? If not, they are also colonizers and wherever they happen to be at any moment is stolen land. When will they be moving out?

If they are going after Lincoln, they certainly have a target-rich environment in Illinois.


21 posted on 11/27/2022 7:33:14 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Wallace T.

As I heard someone say the other day on the radio, their premise is that the United States is not a legitimate country and never has been.


22 posted on 11/27/2022 7:42:17 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: central_va

“Thanks Nikki.”

This can be laid directly at her first-generation feet.

And there are some who think she would make a great president (of the USA).


23 posted on 11/27/2022 7:59:04 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: EvilCapitalist

Indeed and they are still pissed off that he freed the slaves and they show their true colors losers the lot of them.


24 posted on 11/27/2022 8:10:48 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Bernard
Which Lincoln are you talking about? The vampire slayer, the homosexual, or the racist?

The freer of slaves and father of the GOP, or the despotic dictator who divided the country and waged war on his own people?
25 posted on 11/27/2022 8:37:38 AM PST by Izzatso
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To: frogjerk
"So when the Pilgrim came to America in 1621 weren't they refugees and shouldn't they have been welcomed with open arms by the natives?"
They were welcomed and assigned land as allies by the local tribe that had been decimated by smallpox and were being attacked by more powerful western tribes.
26 posted on 11/27/2022 11:30:09 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: C19fan

Here’s the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862

The section labeled “War” contains the account of the “trials” and Lincoln’s careful review of each case to winnow out the true murderers from those who merely participated in the battles. The Dakota 38 were not some haphazardly chosen group.

BTW the state of Minnesota has apologized for the mistreatment of the Native Americans. Have the Native Americans reciprocated? Hundreds of settlers were either killed outright (men) or taken captive (women and children). Thirty eight vs. hundreds. Seems like some ex post facto recognition of the wrongs done needs to be extended to the settlers even if it is very late in coming.


27 posted on 11/27/2022 1:00:44 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: C19fan

It was believed at that time that the tribes went on the warpath due to Confederate agitation from secessionist agents operating through Canada. Everyone forgets the Confederacy had agents all over the West stirring up the tribes at that time.

“There is little doubt that the recent outbreak in the Northwest (Minnesota Uprising) has resulted from the efforts of secession agents operating through Canadian Indians and fur-traders.”—Mr Giddings, US Counsul-general in Canada

From in the book MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by Dunn Jr.


28 posted on 11/27/2022 2:51:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK in Facebook Jail for quoting a line from the Dean Martin movie "Rough Night In Jericho.")
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To: C19fan

Yep. Over 300 and Lincoln did not “order” the hangings. That was done by a military court and Lincoln actually commuted the sentences of all but the 38 hanged. Another lie from the “woke” mob.


29 posted on 11/27/2022 5:40:52 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Read Homer_J_Simpson’s Civil War posts in General/Chat. The controversy over the Sioux uprising and the executions is currently ongoing.


30 posted on 11/28/2022 6:13:26 AM PST by rxh4n1
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31 posted on 11/28/2022 6:53:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: C19fan

Give um back Loop and Dan Ryan Expressway. Hunt um buffalo on Clark Street with Gray Beaver and Buffy Saint Marie. Sears Tower sacred to our people, the Heckawee. Fight um F Troop for our land.


32 posted on 11/28/2022 11:55:40 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: FLT-bird

I’m going to place a statue of BITE ME...right at my property line...I’d guess it will have 100 bullet holes by next week.


33 posted on 11/28/2022 12:06:23 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Captain Rhino

Those settlers were farming the land and raising their families. Unpardonable!/s


34 posted on 11/28/2022 12:18:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Eleutheria5

By attacking the settlers and trying to remove them from land they claimed was Lakota territory, the Indians were attempting to reassert sovereignty over a fixed piece of territory, which is an action historically and traditional associated with a nation state. They had already given up that status by agreeing to treaties with the federal government. In addition to giving up control over the land, the Lakota had also decided to become wards of the state and recipients of payments of money, food, etc. Everything, even disputes about the basic fairness of the treaty or the mismanagement of the payments fell under federal government and court administration. In addition, at the time of the Lakota War, Minnesota had been admitted to the Union as a state. This meant that they were subject to Minnesota law as well as federal law and the treaties they had agreed to.

The war resulted in defeat for the Lakota. So their attempt to throw off U.S. sovereignty had failed. Consequently, once voluntarily and once by force, the Lakota had been compelled to acknowledge the sovereignty of the United States over the disputed territory.

The Lakota claim to that territory was extinguished by the treaties they signed and that extinction was further reinforced when they broke the treaty by resorting to unrestricted warfare. In doing that, they became a gang of common criminals punishable under Minnesota and Federal law.

Lincoln guided the sword of justice pretty carefully. He ultimately approved death sentences only for those defendants his review team felt had been proven guilty of committing actual civil crimes (murder, rape, etc.). For those who had simply rebelled and participated in battles, he commuted their death sentences to prison terms.

This parsing into discrete groups was indicative of his approach to the Civil War.

If you read his speech to Congress after the attack on Fort Sumter, there is a subtext of checking off the procedural boxes when communicating with South Carolina’s governor just like he was still dealing with a state of the Union. South Carolina was going to have to prove by its actions - not angry words - that it really was in rebellion. South Carolina, of course, was glad to oblige.

Ditto for the Emancipation Proclamation: months of notice before it took effect, a pathway for return to the Union while preserving slavery (for a season), and specific exemption for the northern slaveholding states.

Finally, his instructions to Grant and other Union commanders that he did not want harsh measures taken against surrendered Confederate military units, their commanders, or the civilian leadership. Lincoln, of course, was murdered shortly thereafter, but Presidential Reconstruction was less harsh than the period of Congressional Reconstruction that followed. As far as I can recall, the one execution carried out of a notable Confederate official was that of Captain Henry Wirz, CSA, the camp commander of Andersonville prison camp:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_Prison?wprov=sfti1

Wirz was adjudged to have committed actual war crimes - as opposed to have simply been in rebellion. That trial and verdict somewhat mirrors Lincoln’s approach and decision with the Lakota 38.


35 posted on 11/29/2022 2:42:32 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Well reasoned and backed up with facts.

But the Lakota 38 were people of color, and a disproportionate number of them were Lakota, an oppressed indigenous people. In fact, all of them were. So Red Lives Matter, and Bearded Stovetop Hat Man Bad.


36 posted on 11/29/2022 2:51:55 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Eleutheria5

LOL. Touché.

I had started to write a 2022-focused paragraph at the end. But, the post was already too long. (Bad habit of mine.)

If the Lakota 38 had all been pardoned, the activists would still be defacing statues and bitching about the Lakota and the Lakota War. If those issues went away, they’d complain about the statue being emblematic of the “white patriarchy” and “systemic racism.”

They cannot be reasoned with and, frankly, we shouldn’t even try. The bitter and deluded are legion.

The ones to go after are their political, social, and financial enablers. Make the lives of those persons very miserable and let them know why.

There is some slight evidence that this turning may be in the offing. Hopefully, the process will be peaceful. But I don’t think it will be.


37 posted on 11/29/2022 3:17:48 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Good luck making George Soros’ life miserable. Maybe Russia will snag him up and just wreck him, but in this administration, with this DOJ? He owns them.


38 posted on 11/29/2022 3:27:23 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Eleutheria5

Soros has many subordinates and associates. They are known and not all are as well protected…er…insulated, as he is. They are his enablers.

The hand is useless without its fingers. The finger is less useful without its tip or its joints.


39 posted on 11/29/2022 5:01:39 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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