Posted on 01/18/2023 1:30:04 AM PST by Olog-hai
Chauvin is pretty much just a POS who has no business being a cop but I felt like criminal negligence was the appropriate charge. I would have given him 5 years max.
Suicide, not murder. The trial Court is a liar.
You sound like someone who doesn't know the facts. Floyd was originally put into the cop car. Floyd then protested he couldn't breath and Floyd started violently kicking the car doors and windows.
They then removed Floyd from the car and laid him down on the street. They then restrained Floyd as they were trained to do.
Floyd died from a drug overdose of Fentanyl. The cop was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nothing he did caused Floyd's death, and nothing he could have done would have saved Floyd.
Chauvin's conviction represents a horrible miscarriage of justice. This is clearly a case where mob threats caused the court to give into the mob.
You are too focused on how the cop looked and acted, and you are not focused on the truth. The cop did not kill Floyd. The cop was wrongfully convicted.
It always befuddles me why there are so many people who focus on the trivial unimportant aspects of something serious, and completely ignore the significant facts and the ultimate truth.
Chauvin did not kill Floyd. The Conviction is lying bullsh*t and a serious miscarriage of justice. It is a consequence of mob threats and it has no legitimate place in civil society.
Chauvin should not be convicted because Chauvin did not kill Floyd.
Chauvin's attitude or behavior is meaningless when compared to that essential fact.
For what? What did Chauvin do that you think he needs 5 years in prison?
"Who controls the mob controls the courts." Attributed to Marcus Tullius Cicero
I think I said criminal negligence but since you didn’t absorb it the first time around let me repeat. Criminal negligence: A defendant who acts in disregard of A serious risk of harm that a reasonable person in the same situation would have perceived. Average sentence 1-3.75 years. I said 5 years max. I would have been fine with the minimum.
Lets face it everyone including me watched the videos of the event ad nauseum. A reasonable person which includes me and apparently a couple of LEOs on scene who questioned Chauvin’s continued kneeling on Floyd’s neck concluded he was at risk of harm.
It wasn’t murder but it wasn’t OK and Chauvinism was deliberately being an ahole. 21 years is insane and I hope he gets a new trial and gets off with time served but he deserved some punishment IMO. I realize you disagree.
And what did Chauvin disregard that a reasonable person would not have disregarded?
Lets face it everyone including me watched the videos of the event ad nauseum.
I'm pretty sure you are referring to the deliberately spread media propaganda lie that Chauvin was hurting Floyd. The question is, did you see the other videos before the famous media lie video?
The way you are responding to me makes me think you have not seen these videos.
A reasonable person which includes me and apparently a couple of LEOs on scene who questioned Chauvin’s continued kneeling on Floyd’s neck concluded he was at risk of harm.
I ran across a quote the other day that I hadn't seen before.
"The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject." -MARCUS AURELIUS (121-180 AD)
Chauvin was not harming Floyd, despite the ignorant opinions of the other rookie officers present, and despite the opinions of all the video watching people who were unfamiliar with the technique.
The particular technique Chauvin was using was *TAUGHT* to the members of that police department during their academy training. It is illustrated in their teaching material. It was department approved and considered by that department to be a valid method of restraining someone.
Chauvin's bad looking restraining technique caused no harm to Floyd. Floyd died of a drug overdose.
It wasn’t murder but it wasn’t OK and Chauvinism was deliberately being an ahole.
Many people have said so, but after I learned more of the facts surrounding what Chauvin did, I am not so sure.
21 years is insane and I hope he gets a new trial and gets off with time served but he deserved some punishment IMO. I realize you disagree.
Well of course I disagree. What I learned informed me that what they show you and what is the truth is often not the same thing at all.
What exactly did Chauvin do that caused harm to Floyd? It wasn't the knee on his back or shoulder. There have been freepers that have said they had someone put their knee on their necks and it caused no harm to them.
If you are going to put a man in prison for 5 years, and effectively destroy his entire life as a consequence of that, you should have very very good and provable reasons that the man did something illegal.
I have seen no such proof regarding Chauvin. I've seen a mob rush to judgement.
Like I said even other LEOs were uncomfortable with Chauvin’s actions and they were standing right there on scene. Not watching from their recliner.
Lets face it all Chauvin had to do was cuff Floyd behind his back and prop him up Sitting against a patrol car. In his condition no way is he standing up unassisted. Then when Floyd died at some point further down the custody chain Chauvin would still be a cop. Like I said criminal negligence.
Among Floyd’s complaints was that he had taken fentanyl anally to accelerate its effects.
He used some “street term” common among druggies.
See above...
You mean all the other rookies he was training at the time? Yeah, I can see how a rookie would be uncomfortable when law enforcement has to do some rough work.
Not watching from their recliner.
I don't own a recliner, but I don't think a recliner is relevant to whether or not someone can research the facts and arrive at the truth.
Lets face it all Chauvin had to do was cuff Floyd behind his back and prop him up Sitting against a patrol car.
No he couldn't. That wasn't Departmental procedure. Floyd had exhibited violence and he was clearly under the influence of some drug. Holding him till medics arrived is what Chauvin was supposed to do, but thanks to the crowd of people looking for racism, the medics had to park a distance away and walk to the scene.
Then when Floyd died at some point further down the custody chain Chauvin would still be a cop. Like I said criminal negligence.
You still don't seem to have bothered to learn all the facts before deciding the Cop needs to go to jail. You have rushed to judgement.
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