Posted on 04/03/2023 4:54:36 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
“For one high schooler, despite her high overall average when she sent out college applications, she was shocked to receive more rejections in the mail than she hadn’t been anticipating.”
We refered to the rejection letters as FOADs and plastered the wall with them.
Many schools now give extra credit scores for taking AP classes, and she loaded up on those. That her GPA wasn’t actually higher, given that her school clearly does that, is telling.
My guess would be that she scored just above average on both the math and verbal sections. If she took classes at a college with students who were her intellectual peers, she could probably pursue her chosen major well enough to pursue a career in it, given some other obvious advantages.
Ever since they revised the SAT scoring 1100 is at best average for a competent student (40 years ago 1100 was above average but even then not Ivy League)
a GPA of 4.1 (out of 4.0) with a SAT of 1100 screams institutional malfeasance, this girl was sold a set of lies and pushed through without the academic rigor a 4.0 used to indicate in the past.
I have seen many students think they are much more prepared than they are, only to be severely disappointed or remain delusional and dangerous. Our academic institutions are doing worse than failing students; they are destroying them with false beliefs and inflated self importance.
There are no “top” schools. None. Most schools are also experiencing less students than seats lately. This competitive admissions things is propaganda to generate hype in a school. Those competitive admissions school are usually the lowest performers with the best marketing hype. They are also usually large schools where kids get lost quickly and do poorly.
It is far better to find a good school that fits other criteria such as location, political ideology (weed out liberal schools), environment, safety, cost, and then buckle down to study.
” And I know of many capable students who avoided AP classes because they simply didn’t want to do the extra work.”
I took AP classes in High School and thought they were far easier than the regular classes, and that was 40 years ago.
Another question is what colleges did she apply to? Which did she consider safeties? Where did she get accepted? What was the unweighted GPA?
1100 is an ok test score, but since test optional, only kids scoring 1350 and above seem to be submitting them. Test optional allow colleges to use “holistic” admissions, which allows them to choose who they want without proof of any racist intentions.
Yeah, especially if the kid just happens to be one of the teachers kids..
This person is a victim of a bad high school. I saw this when I attended an engineering school. Many “top in their class” students were never challenged in high school. They flunked out after freshman year.
> I took AP classes in High School and thought they were far easier than the regular classes, and that was 40 years ago. <
And therein is the problem with teaching in general. A lax AP teacher might demand little of his students while a tough mainstream teacher might demand a lot. It is the job of the principal to moderate such things. But they rarely do.
I taught AP physics at an urban public high school. We had all the problems one would expect at such a place. But by golly, we had a great all-around AP program. History, English, Math, and Science.
I’m retired now. I’m told the AP program is being watered down, not by teachers but by the administration. No surprise there.
She should put on her applicator she’s a lesbian... wants to kill conservatives, hates Trump and believe ‘free speech’ should only be for liberals ...
In like Flynt...
Also missing—what scores did she achieve on her AP tests?
When you take an AP class, there’s a standard test at the completion with ranking from 0-4. If you get a 3 or a 4, some colleges will grant college credit upon admission.
Some students skip the tests because they’re hard and they cost extra.
If you take lots of AP credit and do well, you can start college as a sophomore and greatly reduce time to graduate.
So C’Lette—did you take the tests? How did you score?
her SAT score had been 1100
LMAO
that is a TERRIBLE score if you want into a really top-notch ivy league school or want good scholarships.
She obviously goes to one of those schools where if you even show up for class they give you an “A”
1100 is above average. Its certainly not brilliant, and should not get people into top or mid-tier STEM. But it certainly should get her into a mid tier college.
1100 is 85th percentile and correlates to an IQ of 116-117
Change name from C’lette to sílèdá and lean Mandarin.
Or maybe learn, arithmetic, algebra, trigonometry and calculus. In that order.
Forget about coding.
“C’Lette explained that her SAT score had been 1100 out of 1600”
Hell, I did better than that, and that was BEFORE the test was greatly dumbed-down.
Also, she can thank her parents (or, more likely, parent) for giving her a name that will handicap her for life.
So what’s the answer? Or are you getting paid for clicks?
Our kid saw this in the UC (California) system a decade ago. The professor would discuss a study and tell the students to research the background information on it. Their assignment was to decide whether they agreed or disagreed with the results of the study. They were to cite the information they research to perform their task (and don't plagiarize).
The first words out of half the class would be "What do I need to do to get an "A" in the course?" Most of these kids were taught just memorization and regurgitation on tests. Very little development at "applying" knowledge.
Note that the above assignments had no wrong or right answer. You were being tested on your ability to research and critically thinking about a subject. A lot of these students didn't make it out of the first quarter (and, yes, several plagiarized).
Our AP programs were of high standards, the material was just far easier to do than doing yet again the same K-12 class taught year after year. AP Physics, for instance, had far more interesting and educational labs than the year 12 physics class. AP English was about writing a full paper with structure versus the brain damaged standard English class. My High School also had college professors and people with industry qualifications since it was an overseas military school and not the usual High School in America.
So here’s what happened, when you read the details: she applied directly into the STEM programs, and did so without submitting her SAT scores at all. So that means she applied to schools that have separate admissions processes for their STEM programs, which means that even if the university had testing-free OPTIONS, the STEM program likely did NOT.
Blame her guidance counsellor.
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