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Why the #DiedSuddenly movement must die
New York Post ^ | 4.15.23 | Bethany Mandel

Posted on 04/17/2023 2:47:22 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: FLT-bird

“mortality is up dramatically for younger people nobody would expect to be dying in the numbers they are....”

And the gubmint and lamestreams have finally been forced to admit that COVID was not very risky at all for young people, which is another reason to dismiss that COVID could be the culprit for this “mysterious” increase in mortality.

There is also the lockdowns to consider, and they were surely at least a small contributing factor since they led to a dramatic increase in depression, substance abuse, and suicide. However, if those factors could account for all the excess deaths, the media would be trumpeting such news from the rooftops, but they cannot. So that really only leaves one thing to suspect is the cause.


61 posted on 04/17/2023 6:48:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DallasBiff
“People feel that their medical leaders are withholding basic facts, denying reality, disregarding new information, or worse, causing them harm.”


62 posted on 04/17/2023 6:53:17 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: firebrand

“including covid itself”

Even the government now admits that COVID was not a great risk for young people. So we have to dismiss the idea that you can just wave away the excess mortality for younger people by crying “COVID”.


63 posted on 04/17/2023 6:54:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FamiliarFace

Now we know. Comforting to realize we sided with the good guys on this one.

As emperor Barack Hussein I is fond of (dis)quoting, “the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice”


64 posted on 04/17/2023 6:55:22 AM PDT by RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus
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To: RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus

+++++It also exposed quite a few of our “fellow citizens” as the good little Soviets they are; many of our neighbors, friends, and sadly, family, would happily herd us into the gulag if told to do so.+++++

Before 2020 I believed most Americans were smart and would not fall for propaganda and would spot tyranny miles away. Wow, was way off. Half of my in laws (family of 16) went totally Nazi. We’d get in arguments with them all the time....they (just) started with us, know we’re Christians. We had to distance ourselves from half of them. My workplace was another matter, since I was not vaxxed but had Covid. I was avoided, excluded from my walking group, mocked, made to wear a mask around the office while others didn’t. They all were boosted on top of the original-—then all got Covid 2-3 times since then and actually counted down the days to their next booster.

The trans crap, abortion, masking, lock downs, guns-—whatever, even “conservative” friends bought into this BS.

Now I believe most Americans are amongst the stupidest people on the planet.


65 posted on 04/17/2023 6:55:46 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: woodbutcher1963
The most epic example was the Buffalo Bills football player Damar Hamlin literally dropping DEAD on national TV. Then only because he was given immediate medical care by the best physicians available he was brought back to life after expiring twice.

The same happened to me, Thanksgiving weekend of 2018, well before COVID or the clotshot. I dropped dead on the basketball court. Through God's Grace, prompt first aid and great medical care I'm still around. It does happen sometimes, sans vaxx.

But even when proven to be a vaxx reaction, the silence will be deafening.

66 posted on 04/17/2023 6:56:05 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
"My understanding is that most COVID deaths were to people already at risk of death. "

The average age of "COVID victims" is higher than average life expectancy. You don't see/hear that little factoid much. You also don't see/hear the fact that the average "COVID victim" had, on average, 2.6 serious comorbidities (e.g. cancer, high blood pressure).

Basically, if not for the bogus "COVID tests", the bogus "COVID death" counting, and the "COVID deaths" due to medical malpractice (vents, dehydration, remdesevir, etc.), "COVID" would not even exist.

EVERYTHING about "COVID" is a LIE.

67 posted on 04/17/2023 7:05:00 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: JimRed
My understanding is that most COVID deaths were to people already at risk of death.

You should have been on the COVID-19 daily threads from January to early May in 2020. There were FReepers who railed against the notion that COVID-19 primarily killed those older than age 60 and that had one or more co-morbidities. Even though there was data from multiple states that showed that.

68 posted on 04/17/2023 7:23:37 AM PDT by Fury
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To: sten

As with election fraud, critics attack the skeptics not the facts.


69 posted on 04/17/2023 7:27:15 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
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To: HandBasketHell
I haven't been vaxxed, but I have had COVID twice. Jan 2022 and Jan 2023. I have been an avid skater since 1963. Indoor rinks, outdoor roads. Quads. Inline speed skates. The only time I ever fell prior to Jan 2022 was from another skater tripping me. Post Jan 2022, I was at an indoor rink. A backward skating session. I went down when some jackass pushed a stroller with an infant into my skates. I took 3 months off to let the damage heal. On return, I was just skating in a relatively lightly filled floor and did a face plant on the wood. I suspect it was 100% my "fault" for not putting my left skate down correctly. That was the last time I went out skating. I had another "oops" carrying a case of Diet Coke up the concrete steps in front of my house. Face plant again. At this point, I suspect just enough damage from the COVID cases that my balance/kinesthetics are compromised.
70 posted on 04/17/2023 8:15:53 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Fury
"The vaccines were not even available then"

They still aren't. They aren't "Vaccines". They're "EUA's".

What you got was "Population Control".

71 posted on 04/17/2023 10:47:44 AM PDT by guest7
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To: SamAdams76

Where is dugawaydouche and gas lighter? Aren’t they usually on these threads saying nothing to see?


72 posted on 04/17/2023 11:40:06 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: daniel1212
The CDC's database, VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System), has been recording reports of deaths following vaccinations for the past 30 years.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality

73 posted on 04/17/2023 12:20:56 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: guest7

The government pulled a ‘bait and switch’. Because people were refusing to get vaxxed for employment purposes, saying that they could not be forced to get an experimental ‘vaccine’, the FDA then licensed the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ named Comirnaty (same formula). However, Pfizer did not manufacture the Comirnaty ‘vaccine’ because the licensed version would entail medical liability for death/suffering and the EUA version would not.

SO members of the public/military were mislead into thinking, in printed materials and commercials, that they were getting the FDA licensed version. So our ‘handlers’ tricked people into ‘having’ to get the experimental ‘vaccine’ for work/military service.

This may change now that the CDC has forced the Covid ‘vaccines’ onto the childhood vaccine schedule. Once a ‘vaccine’ is on that schedule, it’s protected from all liability. SO, Pfizer could technically produce the licensed version if it wanted to because it would be liability free.


74 posted on 04/17/2023 12:27:00 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: MachIV

Ditto.


75 posted on 04/17/2023 12:28:03 PM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: DallasBiff

She does have a point. Nobody who’s had a loss wants to be pestered by conspiracy theorists. I would just say “Don’t harrass grieving families about this. Give them their privacy.”

The problem is that the internet gives everyone an open window or door to everything people are saying all over the world. One can’t expect that people are not going to talk and speculate about what’s going on. So while you shouldn’t bother bereaved people, I’d also suggest that a family member or friend keep parents who have lost someone off the internet and filter what gets through to them.


76 posted on 04/17/2023 12:39:54 PM PDT by x
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To: FamiliarFace

I am well aware that the Jab doesn’t necessarily kill it’s victims.

My nephew’s wife got nerve damage from the Jab. She has tremors and can barely walk.

The doctors try to tell her that it is emotional issues.

Strange that she didn’t have any emotional problems before the Jab.


77 posted on 04/17/2023 2:39:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

So sorry to hear that.

My older sister has been sick with all sorts of lymph problems and general ill health since she got her first Pfizer. She has been sick with something or another every month or so since then. Yet, she continues to get her boosters. She wasn’t in great shape before the shots, mostly just never exercised at all, but now she has to rest after going out for a quick errand.

Our best friend has been fighting inflammation all over, especially in his joints. He was a VERY HEALTHY 55 year old before his Pfizer shots. He only got the first two, no boosters. At least he stopped with just the first two. I’m hoping he will improve soon. He’s pretty young, but has aged significantly since those shots.


78 posted on 04/17/2023 2:53:19 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: ransomnote
"...Pfizer did not manufacture the Comirnaty ‘vaccine’ because the licensed version would entail medical liability for death/suffering and the EUA version would not..."

=https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/2/videos/summit-sessions-the-science-ryan-cole-md-covid-19-vaccines-autopsy/

Start at 4:30, to save some time.

79 posted on 04/17/2023 3:04:49 PM PDT by guest7
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To: BrandtMichaels

Yeah. My second-highest SAT score. I’m really embarrassed. Still can’t figure out why all the engineering colleges were sending me material.


80 posted on 04/17/2023 6:29:09 PM PDT by firebrand
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